I hope it is wrong. I think that Trump's policies are more liberal than
Hillary's would have been. He is actually protecting religious freedom.In any event, the difference between Hillary and Clinton is that Hillary
knew better. I don't think that Trump would know the implications.But neither should be president.
Amazing how folks can be scammed without knowing it.
@Herbert Gravy So, that's your defense for Trump's
actions? Hillary did it?
Hillary Clinton did much more to put this country at risk by playing fast and
loose with classified information.Private server, actually
destroying hardware, etc., etc.Where was the liberal outrage then?
Proof that Trump was a horrendously bad choice to be president:While
we've been distracted with the Comey firing fiasco, and now Trump's
hosting the Russians in the White House and giving them Intel that betrays
allies - after the Russians attacked our country 6 months ago, the topic Comey
wouldn't stop investigating - China has announced a massive economic and
trade initiative involving most of Asia and Europe that they're committing
$200 Billion toward.2017 is not going to be kind to American
@worf: "What kind of mindset do people have for believing this
rubbish?"People who pay attention to what Trump has said and
done up to this point believe he would have no problem revealing top secret
information that came from allies and was not his to divulge and let me in
danger both the allies and field agents.Trump wants desperately to
look important to people, be it by bragging about getting away with sexual
assault or endlessly prattling about crowd size or by sharing classified
information like Ward gossip. Then he denied it. Then he
prevaricated about it. Then he admitted it.
vermonter," . . . . The president can declassify information anytime
he wants to. This is what Harry Truman did in July 1945 when he told Soviet
leader, Josef Stalin that the US had an atomic bomb. . . . "______________________________Truman and Winston Churchill in a private
meeting at Potsdam jointly decided to inform Stalin about the bomb.
He shared with subordinates, not even directly to Putin. Vladimir would never
puff himself up to an ambassador. Sorry, this can not be positively spun
Poster Craig Clarke writes: ". It’s the same Donald Trump who began
revealing himself two years ago. What’s incredible is that his supporters
refuse to see it even now."IMO his supporters ( more like cult
worshipers) see it but are too embarrassed to admit they were duped, or too ill
informed to care!The Republican party spawned, nurtured and now own
Donald Trump, lock, stock and barrel.Trump IS the face of the
Republican Party. Unfortunately Trumpism is starting to circle the drain, and
unless Republican Politico's grow a spine real fast, he will take them
down with him.
To a narrow low information mind, this would be horrifying news.
The president can declassify information anytime he wants to. This is what
Harry Truman did in July 1945 when he told Soviet leader, Josef Stalin that the
US had an atomic bomb. One can question the wisdom of Truman
sharing that information with Stalin. But, it was perfectly legal for Truman to
tell Stalin.And, perhaps we should understand what Trump shared with
Lavrov before we condemn him to impeachment proceedings. This makes
the mainstream press look "out-of-control" and simply unintelligent.
And, perhaps they don't simply look that way.
When Trump starts talking, take cover. He blathers on and on without awareness
of the implications of what he says. When he’s called on it, he denies he
said it, accuses others of lying including the news media, and blames everyone
but himself. This is no surprise to me. It’s the same Donald Trump who
began revealing himself two years ago. What’s incredible is that his
supporters refuse to see it even now.
I might be the ignorant one but...wouldn't one head of state share
information about Islamic terrorists with another head of state? I think we
keep making things what they are not.
@xert.I do appreciate your thoughts.However, you
mischaracterized my post, quoting me out of context. Specifically, as to
America being in danger I said, "not really." Additionally,
I am not a "nervous Trump voter." I'll readily admit to being a
reluctant Trump voter. This is where I still feel at home in the Republican
ranks. There are quite a lot of reluctant Trump voters there. Their loyalty is
to ideals (primarily those found in the Constitution and Declaration of
Independence), not charismatic personalities. Would that the
mainstream press at least appeared honored those same ideals. Would that
liberals and Democrats could also find common cause with the ideals of the
reluctant Trump voter. But, alas it seems to be loyalty to "the cause"
or "social justice" or loyalty to Bernie or Barack or Elizabeth Warren
that seems to dominate the "loyal" opposition in America today.
Read Vermonter post if you want a real look into the nervous Trump voter is
thinking right now."I don't trust Trump and I don't
trust the American press.""Do I think we're in trouble
with Trump in the White House? Not really, but I'd rather have someone else
in there."By next week it will be---"He can't help it.
He's got a really tough job to do! The mean ol' press should be more
supportive."These are the sounds of Trump voters realizing that
their vote has put this nation, their children and their grandchildren in real
danger. You thought it would be a simple matter of him going to DC and
dismantling everything. Well, he's giving it a shot! The Russian's are
supportive and so are you. I guess it's always good to make new friends,
It's time for Congress to step away from its' horrible negligence up
to this point and sanction this man.
The Washington Post reported President Trump revealed secrets to the
Russians.The next day Trump's surrogates issued carefully
worded statements to the effect it wasn't so. Trump fans bellowed,
"Fake news," "Snowflakes," "Lamestream media."That night , Trump tweeted he did it and so what. He had the right to share
classified information with the Russians.Don't Trump fans ever
get tired of being played for fools?
I don't trust Trump and I don't trust the American mainstream press.
But, I do trust H.R. McMaster. Nothing was shared with Russians that should not
have been shared.Mainly I don't trust Trump's tweets.
Most of us should have figured out by now that, for the most part Trump's
tweets are schoolyard trash-talk, and about as serious. (No to worry about the
foreign press and foreign leaders. They've figured it out already. See
Australia prime minister for proof.)Do I think the country is
"in danger" with Trump as president? Not really. But, I'd rather
have someone else in the White House.But, I also believe it could be
a lot worse. If Hillary was president, her mis-steps, legal or otherwise would
not garner near the attention the mainstream press is giving to "unnamed
sources" reports on Trump. The mainstream press just can't
seem to help themselves. They seem absolutely determined to get Trump out
through some Watergate-style scandal, whether or not the allegations against
Trump are true or not. After all, Trump is simply on the wrong team, and he so
darned arrogant to boot.
@Worf & Ute AlumniMr Trump has admitted on his twitter that he
disclosed the information, why are you pretending it didn't happen? It was
also probably legal. The real questions is whether it was wise which it was most
Remember Barack Obama's comment to the Russian rep.?"I will
have more flexibility after the election" or words to that effect.And where is the outrage over the Russian uranium deal?😁
Trump admits he shared secret info with the folks that actively worked to
interfere with our election and asserts that he has this right. Except that he
doesn't because it wasn't U.S.-generated intelligence. It was from a
3rd party that hadn't given permission to share it.He also
doesn't seem to understand that his Russian buddies want to destroy us.
But maybe they promised to put him in charge of their new territory, Trumpistan
(f/k/a the U.S.A.).
Hilliary devotees stages of denialIllegal serverLied about
BenghaziIncompetentShe LOSTget over it
Unsubstantiated rubbish from the Washington Post.... But let's run with it
because we are fair and balanced in our determination to take this president out
What kind of mindset do people have for believing this rubbish?And
Trump was arrogant for eating two scoops of ice cream?Pathetic!
From "Salon:""On Jan. 27, the day after Yates first
warned the White House about Flynn, Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to
the White House for dinner and tried to get him to shut down the investigation
of Trump’s Russia connections by asking him to pledge
“loyalty” to the president. Three weeks later to the day, Comey went
before the House Intelligence Committee and announced that Trump, his campaign
and transition team had been under criminal and counterintelligence
investigation for more than nine months. Trump began complaining in tweets and
interviews that the “Russia thing” was a “hoax” and
“fake news.” When his transparent attempt to quash the investigation
with public bullying didn’t work, Trump began complaining to aides about
Comey and asking what could be done about him. This week, the man under
investigation once again fired the man investigating him. Trump generated an
entirely false story and used it to justify firing Comey. Tump lied about why he
fired Comey, and almost immediately admitted firing him because he wanted the
Russiagate investigation shut down, and Comey wouldn’t do it."
Well, why not? Trump would not do this if he was the slightest bit
concerned that Republicans would hold him accountable. But
he's not, because they won't. This is the GOP in 2017.
From the VP down to the rank-and-file, Trump has reduced you all
down to slight variations of Chris Christie. He did not have to do a thing.
Each of you incrementally self-abased yourselves, each day tolerating one more
degree of intolerable treatment. All out of desperate hunger for some crumb
that you never will receive. For Christie, it was the elusive VP
spot...until everyone but he knew he would never get the nod. For
the more lowly Republicans, it might be some illusory Trump campaign promise
that few others still believe will ever be met: Obamacare repeal? Tax reform?
Some sort of fence? But Trump sure makes you Republicans jump,
doesn't he?Excuse the inexcusable? Sure!Divide
allegiance? Okay...which lands and which leaders?Coffee? Why of
course Mr. Trump...how would you like it?
Those Republicans that do not realize they are aiding and abetting the Trump WH
will be in serious jeopardy in the Fall of 2018.
The incompetency of this man beggars the mind. Just when I think he can't
do anything worse, he does. The thing is, I have tried to find things that he
has said that I can actually agree with, then he goes and does this and I'm
back at square one. What is the matter with him? He can't seem to get it
and I don't see that he ever will.
And remember, the Russian press was invited to this meeting in the Oval Office
of the White House while American press was excluded.
He said something stupid without tweeting it first.
I'm not sure what's worse...that he did this or that he did it because
he loves to brag so much he simply can't keep his mouth shut. It
wasn't so much a deliberate mistake as a dumb one. One thing for
sure, if this were a Democrat, Congress would be at the white house door tonight
with torches and pitchforks. We need them to step up now and put the interests
of our nation before party. They stole the supreme court seat and are just going
to mess health care up anyway, so rather than do that right now it's time
to get to the bottom of this Russia/trump mess.
Trump Supporter Stages of Denial:1. WH says nothing happened. 2. If it happened, not a big deal. 3. Maybe imprudent, but not
illegal!4. Hilary was worse. Email. Bengzai.
Trump's indebtedness to the Russians requires Congress to start talking
about the 25th Amendment. This man is not doing anything for our country aside
from jeopardizing and imperiling it on a daily basis. Lee, Bishop,
Chaffetz, Love, Hatch, Stewart all need to pull their heads out of the sand.
Their silence only compounds the damage.
You are right kind canot gve up on not disclosing classied information to the
Russians, are you saying come nservatives can? Btw no amount of deflection
changes the fact that this is Trumps mess.
Russian Today, FoxNews, and Pravda all claim this story is fake and that Trump
really didn't reveal classified information to Russia's top spy.
There you have fair and balanced.
The gross incompetence of this administration is mind boggling. By breaching the
agreement to not share highly sensitive information unless given clearance,
puts our country at risk, as other intelligence agencies will be hesitant to
share intel with the current administration.
OK die hard Republicans. When are you going to realize that Trump is an
immediate threat to our country? This isn't a Democrat or Republican
issue-this is an American issue and an urgent matter of national security.
It's time for all Americans to demand a full investigation in Trump's
debts to Russia, his business dealings with Russia and anything else that may
compromise Trump. If a Democrat President had done 1/2 of the things Trump has
done or said in 120 days, the Republican controlled Congress would have already
had multiple investigations-and rightly so. This is a matter of our
nation's safety and future.
The News about the USA used to be about the strength of their military, the
success of their economy, and their tech innovations.Now it is a
constant revolving door of stupid things Trump has done. America has become the
laughing stock of the world. Definitely not, "Great again."Of course it is entertaining though. Part of me hopes he doesn't get
impeached after all. That dark selfish side. The side that hates Darth Vader but
thinks he makes the show even better.
Libs can't give it up. I'll bet he is really a Russian spy. Sources
apparently are Barry's buddies.