Would someone like to connect the dots on the desire to invite homeless people
to Utah and the increase in crime? Or connect the dots when the SLC mayor in
2000 said he wanted Salt Lake City to become more like NYC? Can we
expect the namesake of the homeless fund we contribute to on our state income
taxes speak out and get involved in the crime that has increased as the number
of homeless has increased?
HOW MANY times have various mayors, and police chiefs in SLC had a "press
conference" to talk about how they are going to "clean up" Pioneer
Park, and the surrounding areas??Talk is cheap; as are do-nothing
"press conferences".SLC has, basically rolled out the
welcome mat for the homeless and criminal drug-dealing element in SLC.Then, when the problem becomes overwhelming they decide to spend 30 million
bucks and build even MORE shelters - but not in their city.The ONLY
thing standing between SLC becoming just like Detroit is the LDS church, and the
way they maintain their properties impeccably.I'm glad I
don't live in SLC!!
Sounds like typical politicians. Throwing money does not fix problems. Salt Lake
City has basically become a "Sanctuary " city for the homeless. Plan all
you want, but allowing these people to stay on the street doing drugs all day
long exacerbates the problem. If you see criminal activity, arrest them.
Salt Lake City is way too easy on these offenders. They should be forced into
jails and forced to work and pay for their stay in the jail. Once the word got
around that being homeless in Salt Lake City leads to nothing but jail and work
they will quit coming here. We are well known as a place that allows for the
homeless population and even contributes to it. This plan by the mayor is
nothing but a waste of money. There are already plenty of places for those that
are serious about getting help to go. If we look 10 years down the road at
plans like the one the mayor is proposing, Salt Lake City will be too far gone
to save. There is a four letter word that will scare all of them to other
Criminalizing doesn't work? Singapore (among many other countries) is very
tough on drugs (for example, death penalty for dealers). Their tough stance is
working very well. It isn't perfect, but working quite well.
@Pam FlindersI disagree with your comments about criminalizing drug
abuse.Drug addicts live in a world with victims all around them. They get
in trouble, the judge sends them to treatment, they don't follow through,
they get in trouble again, the judge gives them three...four...five chances,
they still can't stay clean.The family takes them in and takes
care of them, but they get kicked out of the house or get mad a leave. Repeat a
dozen times.Friends, church people try to help but they can't
follow through. People stick their necks out with jobs, but they skip work or
fight with customers.They end up sleeping in their cars and stealing
(shoplifting, burglary, robbery) to buy drugs and gas.Like Timothy
Troy Walker.These people belong in jail or in mental hospitals.
Criminalizing works. What doesn't work are treatment programs. Until we
figure out who cannot be treated the entire population is at risk.
What a difference a couple of months makes. When they were trying to convince
residents that homeless shelters weren't dangerous and that people in South
Salt lake and Draper were hysterical about nothing, they'd bring in docile,
rational, down-on-their-luck examples of homeless people.Now they
have their sites, they bring in extra parking for cop cars, more patrols and
toilets.Oh, the hypocrisy!It just proves they knew all
along they were spreading dangerous people around the valley for selfish
I'm wondering if the powers to spent our tax dollars have ever thought of
separating the homeless folks into their proper categories and make a decision
on how to help them accordingly. There are folks with mental illness who should
have a different approach to their needs. There are also those who are there for
economic reasons. Some are there because they do not want any responsibility in
life. And let us not forget those who are there to incite or enable criminal
behaviors and conducts. By identifying and prioritizing their needs, it will be
a lot easier to establish a clear objective to be supported by the public.
Properly resourced shelters designated for each homeless population is
essential. The economic misfortunes and domestic violence population should be
separated from the mental health shelters. The criminal elements should be
housed at Sheriff Winders' home since he decided to limit the capacity of
the County Jail. With such clear goals, as a taxpayer, I am willing to support
those ideas. But with the "build and bundle them together" mentality, no
amount of money will ever satisfy such dreams. We are throwing money into the
Send in jackie and Ben. That'll take care of it
The only way Salt Lake city is cleaning up the homeless is to ship them to
South Salt Lake city. They are destroying another city to save themselves.
Take your prescribed meds, get off the illegal drugs and booze and get a job.
Problem solved... And to all you enablers quit giving money to panhandlers. No
compassion here, tied of no personal responsibility in this matter and the way
this populations choices affect the people and community around them.
Criminalizing drug abuse doesnt work. When I think of the people that I know
personally that have died of drug overdoses in the past ten years - they
weren't bad people but my kindly neighbor who got addicted after a skiing
accident and the football star from my high school who got hooked after pain
meds from surgery. They fell into the situation without realizing the cost and
paid dearly. They had money and family that kept them off of the streets but
some aren't so lucky and many turn to crime to support the habit.The more we criminalize drug addiction the more the whole industry is swept
into the shadows and taken over by criminals. We need rehab centers and places
where addicts can get steady doses of methadone or other treatments could go a
long way in giving those who want to quit support.
Yet another waste of time and money. This "plan" (if you can call it
that) is just another boondoggle.
So, what is the plan when they walk a block or two west, east, north, or south
to camp and/or do illegal activities? The issue is not just 500 West.
"Fixing" that street just means the issues will move slightly in another
direction. The businesses on 500 West may be happy, but then what about the
businesses on 200 South?It seems to me that the fix needs to do
something that reduces the number of homeless and criminals on the street.
Offering "programs" is not the answer either, that is likely to backfire
and attract more to the area (seems that is what is occurring now). What is the root cause of the persons "homeless" situation? What
occurred that alienated them from all family and/or friends who would be there
to help? The root cause needs to be addressed and I don't think this does
Crime does not get cleaned up by street lights and bathrooms.Crime
stops when the criminals quit doing illegal things, most importantly drug
abuse.Every drug user and dealer needs to be locked up. (Not just the
ones clustered around Pioneer Park.)The mentally ill cannot be
allowed to roam in feral packs as prey for the criminal element. They must be
institutionalized, if you want to fix their problems, because they do not see
that they have problems, and if we continue to do what we have always done with
the mentally ill (especially arguing that "they have rights" and cannot
be forced to live "normal lives") we will get what we currently have and
will always have.Homelessness needs to be attacked as three separate
issues: criminals, mental illness, and the smallest segment- the economic
homeless."Help wanted" signs are all over SLC, so there is
no excuse for any able bodied person not working, if they truly want a job.