You can't have a QB constantly making bad decisions and expect to beat a
good Pac 12 team. You'd be OK against the 3 cupcakes we started the season
with but against Pac 12 competition we need a healthy Tyler Huntley. You also
MUST score touchdowns when you have a first and goal at the 2 yard line. Field
goals aren't going to cut it.
The difference between Utah and BYU fans is that the Cougar fans know they
aren't having a good year and the Utes think they are.
"Utah just lost to unranked Stanford. So that means we're all
irrelevant!"scars:Isn't it interesting how the
first Ute loss (to a team that returned to the rankings as a result) opens the
floodgates of coog fans' pent-up frustration--often resulting in inane
@Scores - Idaho Falls, ID"If we had Huntley, we win the game
easily." You're saying the same thing Cougar fans say when they
lose."-------The big difference being - we don't say it
nearly as often.
@simplicity I agree. Troy Williams afraid to run with the ball on
the read option. So often he is wide open to run but he won’t do it.
He’s not a very good passer either. I just don’t see him leading
Utah to many wins, and I hate to say that but it’s true.
The Utes were undefeated because they started off with a weak schedule. Now
they have played a mediocre Stanford team and lost. They will probably finish
in the middle of the PAC12 south and will only have the BYU victory to define
their season. The whole state of Utah is having a Down year in D1 Football
Kimmy....Utah just lost to unranked Stanford. So that means we're all
and it will come down to the utes and cougars being 6-6 each. Could we see a
rematch in the vegas bowl again?
The Utes are a worse team than last year. Normally reliable special teams is
making big mistakes. The defense is still good but the offense has digressed -
significantly. Red Zone offense is horrendous. The run game is inconsistent at
best. The "explosive offensive scheme" of Troy Taylor remains to be
seen. The play calling is highly suspect. Williams is a poor decision maker and
inaccurate passer and can't hardly run. Let Bateman have a shot at throwing
the ball. Once the Utes played some not patsies (i.e. the teams in the pre
conference that have a combined 3 wins) they got exposed for who they really are
- a mediocre PAC12 team. The only difference from the past 3 years is we learn
this in early October and not in November. Guaranteed losses are
@USC, @Washington and versus WSU.Probable losses @Oregon.Toss UP -
vs UCLAProbably wins vs ASU, vs Colorado.So the Utes will
likely go 3-6 or possibly if they are lucky 4-5 in conference. That is 2,
possibly 3 more wins, and a disappointing 6-6 or maybe 7-5. Cactus bowl - how
RR - Omaha, NEOct. 8, 2017 6:19 a.m.WAY overrated, clap clap, clap
clap clap...-----Best your lousy team, slap, slap, slap,
slap, slap, slap, slap... next year SLAP!
Impartial7 - DRAPER, UTOct. 8, 2017 9:02 a.m.@uteology;"@Impartial7I think his son was benched."Did you
watch the game? Do you have a DVR? I did/do. After every bad long snap, I
watched the replay and froze the frame, where I could identify #34, before I
posted my comment.------Do you know what "think"
means? I heard on radio he was benched.
If Huntley can't answer the bell yet, i would give Bateman a chance over
Williams. Troy Williams struggles big time. Defenses tee off against him
because he is so tepid and hesitant in the pocket. His decisiveness when to run
or not to run is severely lacking. Utah needs a playmaker at QB to
be a good or great team. Williams is not that guy.
@ kiboo,Unranked USU and BSU pummel unranked byu...Can
you say irrelevant, again?
Utes ,Good try last night but one could state that you should have
actually lost to Arizona as well..... anyway , here is my prediction for
the rest of the season ...USC , Washington , Washington State , Oregon and
Arizona St. all losses .... Ucla and Colorado toss ups .... Absolutely no
running game so the rest of these teams will just load up for the pass just like
a poor defensive Stanford team did last not get ... just my thoughts and please
no comments about the Y because we all know that they are absolutely terrible
this year !
Two costly decisions by Williams, showing why he was second on the list. The
offensive line is still coming together. Troy Williams' offense is still
awaiting consistent execution by the players. My prediction, predicated upon
Huntley's return, is that Utah hits its offensive stride in the next three
games. If it does, it could be a VERY good team.
mdp - Bountiful, UTsaid:"Just shows that a cupcake preseason
does not prepare any team for the big dogs, just provides empty meaningless
numbers to gloat on for a week or two."BYU attempts to eat
dinner before its cupcakes. Just look at its schedule.
@max-was-...You and your fan base know what it's like to lose 5
in a row (you are currently 1-5, remember). However, Utah won't hit that
dubious distinction. And even you have something to look forward to, since
after your next game/loss, you can feast on six extremely light cupcakes making
you bowl eligible.
Kiboo - South Jordan, UtahOct. 8, 2017 12:01 a.m.3-2 Stanford beats
18th ranked Utah. Can you say Overrated - again?_____According
to what? BYU is not even rated at anything other than the bottom ten of D1.
"The first of 5 in a row!!!!"max-was-arrested:Wow, you musf be really smart. Did you forecast that for the coogs, too? I didn't think so.
Max knows what he's talking about, as his favorite team has already said
hello to "5 in a row", while preparing to meet #6.And,
they've already been welcomed to 7 in a row earlier this season. Sound
about right, Max?
A tough loss especially after such a winnable game. But that’s the way
goes back on it really need Huntley back
Chris B, The only poster we know who annoys both BYU's and
Congratulations to Stanford on a great game and win in a place that is very
difficult to play.
That receiver is the real deal. Great hands and fast. That one-handed grab was
sensational. He just stuck his hand out and caught it as if it were a baseball.
I'm glad he received a second chance and hope he continues doing well
right into the NFL. He won't be around next year, but someone will step
up.Tough loss, but in my book the Utes are way ahead of schedule
with the new offense. As I predicted early on, next year is the year. Not to
say they can't do well the remainder of this year. SC is beatable. I kept
feeling they would come back right to the end. Go into overtime and who knows?
The on-side kick was close. The Utes never quit in this game. They
never gave up. Character was front and center.Targeting has to be
called, but I don't in any way feel those two tackles were intentionally
targeting. It's really difficult to avoid sometimes, especially the second
one. It's even more difficult when the offensive player lowers his helmet.
Just glad Troy didn't get hurt.I was impressed with
Stanford's defense and Love is something else. SC does not have a player
like Love. But they did beat Stanford in LA by eighteen points. It will be a
Tough loss. Good comeback try.I don't generally read stories
or comments on the Utes, but I was told that if the U lost to Stanford their
would be a flood of gloating BYU fans. Thought I might see for myself. Well,
not so much. Maybe, just maybe, the Utes are not as important to BYU fans as
BYU is to Ute fans.The Utes (rightfully) complain that some BYU fans
always have the "If (fill in the blank) then we would have won" excuse.
And then I read that same excuse from Ute fans. Like BYU fans should, your team
lost, get over it. Yes, BYU fans do this A LOT but it is just a meaningless
exercise. Do all the excuse making and "if, then" arguments and see if
the score changes. I agree with the criticism of BYU for doing this
but the Ute should stop, also. It just denigrates the other team and suggests
that if things went different there would have been a win. Without
understanding that if things went different, then the opposing team would have
responded in a different way and probably still won.
Utes go 3-4 or 4-3 in the rest of their PAC-12 schedule, generally disappoint
fans and new OC can't solve the "red zone" issues to get that key
win to contend for a division title. The end result is a mediocre bowl.
Let's be honest since some fans want to bring BYU into this. UofU, BYU, and
USU are awful this year. The state of Utah will not be making any national waves
this year. The list as to why can go on forever I am sure. In short UofU
replaced a lot of players and their starting QB played and ended up a like Hill
this season. BYU has a QB problem it seems when BYU get a throwing QB they put
to much pressure on themselves and from fans and seem to go downhill after their
first year. USU did rebuild itself, but seems to be on a slow track to being
awful again. With all the NFL players taking a knee and even beating up those
who will still stand for the flag football is a loss for me this year. I will
have some free time for other things are that are more positive then football
is. There is also BYU rugby to look forward too. Until Utah football
gets in act together and NFL players stop disrespecting my country flag I am
out. See ya
Stanford is clearly superior to the UU. Exceedingly superior. Infinitely
superior. The final score is no indicator of how much better Stanford is,
really. Nor the fact that UU had a chance. Wrong. We know they won by X points
.... but that is in no way, let me repeat myself - no no no no no no no no
nooooooooo way - an accurate representation of absolutely any little itsybitsy
teensyweensy iota smidgen miniscule anything. Really. We know how much better
they really are. So much it can't be quantified, by man, beast, or machine.
At least 50. Probably more. Makes my head hurt to even contemplate. More than X,
anyways.And if you are a yoo-yoo fan and disagree, well, then,
hardeeharhar, we all know what that says about you. Lots. We all know. X = ?
yay. 7 weeks into the season and finally something for happy valley to cheer
about. go cougs.
Just shows that a cupcake preseason does not prepare any team for the big dogs,
just provides empty meaningless numbers to gloat on for a week or two.
Chris B is like your little brother that runs up to your group of friends all
breathless and excited, trying hard to impress, only to say something complete
non sensical and amusing. I'm glad he's on these boards because he
truly is entertaining. Can't wait to hear what he says after USC pounds
Utah into submission.
It was fun while it lasted, but the euphoria of September once again fades to
the reality October and November.A certain loss at USC will end
Utah's PAC 12 South dreams for another year.
Gee, it's only football. When does basketball start?😁
@Max-was-right - springville, UT"The first of 5 in a
row!!!!"------Your team will beat Utah to 6 in a row!!
@uteology;"@Impartial7I think his son was benched."Did you watch the game? Do you have a DVR? I did/do. After every bad long
snap, I watched the replay and froze the frame, where I could identify #34,
before I posted my comment.
I don't follow Utah football much but I was amused at Chris B's
comments:"As tough as this loss was, a win next week essentially
guarantees Utah a trip to Pac12 title game because we'd be up 2 games on
USC due to tiebreaker ... Ucla, Arizona, ASU, and Colorado are all terrible ...
Next week is for the Pac12 south title ... Utah 30 USC 20 ...Go utes...Go
PAC12...Go p5 conferences"LOL! He's still at it. Uh, Chris, doesn't Utah have to play USC in LA? Washington in Seattle? Do
you play Washington State? I don't see Utah scoring 30 on anybody ... they
barely beat BYU. Those games could easily become losses. Anyway, we
miss you on the BYU boards ... you're always good for a laugh!
"If we had Huntley, we win the game easily." You're saying the
same thing Cougar fans say when they lose.
Considering that they didn't destroy a bad BYU team, I'd be worried
about the Utes' chances the rest of the season.
It was a great game, It was fun and the fans had a great time. We all knew that
there were four things that had to happen to be competitive, 1. Contain Love -
Utah did a great job of doing that with one exception = 7 points. 2. Williams
need to look down field and hit open receivers - better but not accurate enough.
3. Moss had to establish the run game. Great first half with 7 points. 4.
production in the Red Zone again first half was great. Second half
was rough, Williams made huge mistakes that he typically does not make two
interceptions. The play calling to leave the run game and go to the air was a
mistake. But the big one that took the wind out of the Utes was the none
production in the Red Zone - 95 yards without a TD.So, end the end
the Utes, stayed in the game, not enough to win. To many errors of judgment and
poor performance from the long snapper. At least it gave the team
down south something to smile about as they head into the worst record in 40
years and they will lose there 6th in a row next week but hay the BYU trolls all
apparently know how to yell over rated. Not so. Utah is and will continue to be
a competitive team in the Pac 12! GO UTES!!!!!!!
Congrats to Stanford...they straight up beat us and were clearly the better
football team.@Max-was-right"The first of 5 in a
row!!!!"You'll have to give us some advice on what that
Tough loss. Among many factors, I think QB play was the biggest reason Utah
lost. You can tell why Williams lost the starting job. He is just inconsistent.
The one thing that drove me crazy was the inability to score a TD in
a 1st and goal situation on the 1 or 2 yard line. Unacceptable. That could have
changed the course of the game drastically.Defense was solid though.
They shut down Love pretty well all game long, minus 2 or 3 runs where he got
loose. Hats off to the defense for bailing the offense out numerous times.And please get a new long snapper!Live and learn, start
preparing for USC. We can beat those guys.
TandJ,"Good bye top 25. Good bye Rose Bowl. Hello a nobody
bowl"So you're sayin "There's a chance?"
WAY overrated, clap clap, clap clap clap...
Looks like the November doldrums came early this year. I was thinking 6-6 for
the Utes, now that they are in the big boy part of their schedule that may come
@kibooOverrated? You mean like all those years (long ago) when BYU was
ranked in thanks to a brand name now almost seemingly fading? Ute fans used to
hear the Y fans claim superiority because of top 25 finishes despite coming up
short 54-10 head to head. I also remember Indy schedules being super weak in the
earlier years of independence. And wins despite a very lacking schedule meant a
brand name (BYU) was ranked. In 2011, Utah was clearly better in September and
at seasons end. But polls meant something to BYU fans then. Me, before all of
that, I ripped the bias of the BCS and I didn't sing a new tune when my
Utes crashed the BCS twice. So there, I pat my own back on a night where I type
for therapy after a Ute loss, as I stay awake nursing my super special 16 year
old dog after a seizure.
@impartial7Alex wasn't the first choice at long snapper. It has come
to that via injury and other scholarship factors. Tough game for us fans to
swallow but it's tougher on the Ute players because they care, play hard
and willingly sacrifice physically win or lose. That is a huge plus for the
program. Be thankful for the attitude/culture the Utes have. To bounce back, the
Utes need to move on with a fired up attitude to play USC. Utah fans can bounce
back from this also. Believing trickles down to the team. Advice to Troy
Williams. Don't fret about being praised or condemned. Whatever time you
have left on the field (your senior year), keep saying your prayers, play with
no regrets, have faith in the throws you can make and let the chips fall where
they may. Put team first and live with the results. That said, beat USC, and the
life in Ute Nation fires up again. Much to play for. Head to head South match up
Look we all want Huntley, but what happened to next man up? All these excuses
over a loss makes us sound zoobish. The Utes lost a game they could have won
because of more than Williams. Not having Fitts and Anae off the edge hurt as
well. Stanford had time to throw on 3rd and longs. Our pass protection on the
other hand could be better. Not pounding the ball into the end zone from the one
yard line stings. The offensive line needs work but they are getting better. It
takes time. Utah is replacing four NFL Draft picks there alone. That is unheard
of. The offense as a whole is still trying to find itself. Huntley (Superman) is
out for now. But if a dynamic Huntley is our only reason for winning and losing
then we have trouble. Yes, a great QB is a huge factor. Stanford doesn't
have one. They have Love. Utah had some great RBs in past years. Now, Utah has
Carrington. Williams needs to be better but I am thankful to have him as a
backup. Would you rather have the cast of QBs down south right now? Support
Williams Ute fans and don't look for someone to condemn. Williams is
sulking some. He sometimes turns that into a chip on his shoulder. Fine line
there. Let's move on to USC.
Utah missed opportunities to beat a good Stanford team.If Huntley,
Fitts, and Anae had been healthy, I believe Utah would have won.
Troy Williams looks lost. When is Tyler Huntley coming back??While
he does have an arm, Williams is somewhat inaccurate and he hesitates forever.
His decision making with the quarterback run is atrocious. His playmaking
ability is nonexistent. How many times do you see him run and leave a 3rd and
two or 4th and one when he could have gotten the 1st?? He just is not a gamer.
This is why Washington benched him and released him long ago, he is a very
average college quarterback, not a playmaker or winner.During spring
ball i called it. I said Tyler Huntley would be named the starter. The vast
majority of Utah fans said no way. Sure enough everyone can see the difference
now. Huntley is a playmaker, difficult to defend and brims with confidence. Of
course defenses tee off against Williams, because he sits in the pocket Forever
and begs for a beating. He is so predictable and looks lost half the time. I hope Bateman gets a shot next week if Huntley can't answer the
bell yet. Utah's offense is the walking dead with Williams. Utah still wins
7 or 8 games with Williams, but with Huntley they have the potential to win the
Max-was-right - springville, UTOct. 7, 2017 11:57 p.m.The first of 5
in a row!!!!----Your Team A will be first to 6 in a row.
@Impartial7I think his son was benched.Time for Troy
Williams to be benched for Bateman. Neither will at USC, but Bateman
should get a chance.
As tough as this loss was, a win next week essentially guarantees Utah a trip to
Pac12 title game because we'd be up 2 games on USC due to tiebreaker. Ucla, Arizona, ASU, and Colorado are all terrible. Next week
is for the Pac12 south title. Utah 30USC 20Go utes
Go PAC12 Go p5 conferences
BYU fan here....now looking for a team to watch that at least competes, and that
certainly is Utah, and not my cougars with a small (c). Whit and company always
show up and compete but seem to struggle with yearly QB issues. Don't be
too disappointed Utes, at least your two guys (Huntley and Williams) are better
than our four guys. Shall we trade? I will give you all of our current QBs, and
our red-shirt QBs.... for either of your guys. What...no deal? How about I throw
in one Heisman trophy winner OC? Still no deal? I don't blame you at all.
Even though you guys lost today...you have a great team and solid coaching. You
will win plenty of games. BYU may be lost for many years....
Well we all saw this one coming. Stanford is not a good football team. Same
thing year after year. Play an easy pre-season and go steadily down hill the
rest of the year. Can I get my tax money that was spent on all of
the Utah offensive coordinators refunded?
OK here we go with Stu (stay the course) Gotz's observations good
game to watch especially because Utah lost(ding)Oscars given on homecoming
night(ding)the Oscar for best acting kicker Matt Gay for rolling around
on the non hit with best supporting actor coach K responding like he really was
hit(ding)funniest comments from the commentators(ding) mocking Gay
for his miraculous recovery from the hit he took for which he won the
Oscar(ding) Utah defense did a good job on Love(ding) he still ran
for over 140 yards(ding)Utah's Tauteoli was good(ding) Loved
and chuckled at the last extra point by Gay looks like he had more of a chance
to injure his leg on that kick than the other one(ding)Score ended up
flattering Utah(ding)If any Utah fans still had a big red bubble of hope
for a super bowl game it is now popped(ding)Now those are some of my games
It's clear to me why Huntley won the starting job. Williams is not tough.
If he pulls the ball on a least three zone reads he is still running. Sorry
Williams family and friends..... he is too soft to be a D1 QB and not adequate
for the Utah offense.
A tough loss but still very proud of this team. They fought and failed, but Xert
saw real heart out there and there is no shame in losing to a team like
Stanford. Congrats to them for playing really well on the road (especially their
defense). I thought Stanford might be the better team coming in based on having
played a really good schedule, but that the Utes might win with a stout d and
playing at home. Too bad, but I think this will still be a strong season for the
Utes. Learn from this and play hard when things aren't going your way and
you might get an unexpected win or two. Go Utes!!!
3-2 Stanford beats 18th ranked Utah. Can you say Overrated - again?
There was an obvious reason why we lost that game tonight. This stat proves my
point. Completion % on the season:Huntley - 73%Williams
- 47%It is clear why Huntley won the job. If Huntley plays tonight,
I believe the outcome is much different. With Huntley gone, Troy Taylor loses
30% of his playbook, if not more. What a shame. Hopefully Huntley
returns next week. Go Utes!
The first of 5 in a row!!!!
i know williams tried hard and competed, but he just isn't a dynamic
quarterback. no doubt in my mind that if huntley plays tonite, utes win
easily.that said, how about we give it up for the utah front 7 on
defense. for the most part, they held one of the most electric college running
backs i have ever seen in check. think he was tackled for a loss 5-6 times,
but when he gets a crease~~look out.interesting game to watch and
utah had its chances.
Good bye top 25. Good bye Rose Bowl. Hello a nobody bowl.
No matter what the final score, one thing is certain. Kyle Whittingham's
son, Alex, has to be replaced as their long snapper. Any other kid with half his
bad snaps would've been benched 2 games ago.