Seems like most of the blame is being placed on the offense. What about the
defense? The BYU defense was feared for its hard hitting style in recent years.
I remember watching the early games last year and we would all yell
"Pau'U" each time Butch laid a hit on someone. You could hear the
pop easily through the television. I am not hearing many pops from any of our
defenders this year. Hate to say it, but this defense seems far softer than
what we have been used to in recent years. I expected a Sitake defense to hit
harder and play meaner than what we have seen this year. Everyone gave
Mendenhall a hard time for his firesides and football as a 5th priority but his
defenders always brought the wood and made good use of it during the ballgames.
Not sure the same can be said for the current group.
Dick Harmon has analyzed the issues precisely; he is a great sports writer. BYU
is a great institution, and the players there are fortunate to be part of the
team. BYU has great talent and tradition. The offense just needs to click
together better by giving the quarterback the freedom to perform up to the level
of his capability, and BYU will pull off some exciting wins.
In football, it's all about the quarterback. In baseball, it's all
about the pitcher. You already have the pieces in place around them, so those
players have to perform. If a pitcher is having a bad day, you replace him. It
seems like a quarterback stays in as long as he can still walk or crawl on the
field. Remember when Gifford Nielsen saw the field for the first time? He was
like the third quarterback to get in that game, I believe it was against New
Mexico, and the Cougars were down to the point they were not going to win that
game. But, they did! Giff brought the Cougars back and from then on is was the
starter. This is why you go ahead and start the young Joe and let him sling it
around a bit and see what happens.
Lesson to be learned by Dick and other sportswriters here is stop the overhype
of players and coaches especially during the preseason. Based on this
year's preseason overhype of the all-pro offense, receivers, big tight
ends, best coaching, etc., BYU was going to the championship game. Do not
confuse optimism with sensationalism. The bigger irony in this
article is you live/win by the quarterback (the Lavell Edwards era) and you
die/lose by the quarterback (everyone else).
I find the article interesting but at the end of the day BYU has had a very
strong run since the arrival of LaVell Edwards. Schools go through cycles In the
50's and 60's, the Aggies were pretty good, but the landscape changed
for the Aggies fell on hard times. BYU had a very good run for several decades
then the landscape changed and now they are falling on hard times. The U was
never been very good until Urban Meyer's showed up, Kyle has continued the
streak and it looks like the U's run will last for 5 or 6 more years or
until Kyle retie's. I would except the landscape will change again and who
know's what football will look like in the start of Utah ten years from
now. I think this is more about players than finding a thread over decades to
answer the real question "Why is BYU losing?" maybe it's just that
BYU is not the same program it was under Edwards and BYU is on the down side of
the cycle. BYU needs a conference before I will get better and the BIg 12 is
not interested. What we can expect from BYU is a 6 win and 6 loss team going
Epic, historic losing streak!!
@sg and Hobo - I guess they should de-escalate and join a whatever the football
equivalent to the WCC is. Then they could win every game and a national
championship since they have a playoff system. Thrilling games like North Dakota
State and Montana will bring back the old Skyline Conference flavor.Last I looked, there are a lot of P5 teams that never win a thing. Lets see:
Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa, Illinois, etc. So far, Utah is one of those
teams. Maybe a conference made up of those perennial also-rans would be a good
deal. Clump the big money football factories into the College Football Major
League, consisting of, say, 20 teams, playing nationally, with salaried players.
The rest go back to actual college football with cheerleaders and stuff.
Thank goodness many of these fans are not coaching the team! Five losses and the
situation is impossible. Off with all of their heads - coaches, players, and
Dick Harmon!Dick, your main point is right on. On a team where the
passing game is THE competitive edge, revolving quarterbacks are a disaster. Look a little deeper and you will find the real weakness right now is
our offensive line. Despite all the preseason optimism, the OL can't match
up with top talent on the other side. Quarterbacks have to run for their lives
and running backs have too few holes to run through. The OL hasn't been up
to the task since Roger French retired.One historical correction:
Dave Coon was not the third quarterback in 1970. Dave was a very fine running
back. The quarterback was Dave Terry. I know because I worked closely with the
athletic department in those days.
Four things:1) BYU needs to recruit better (which will be tough after this
season)2) Tanner Mangum is not the man for QB. Anyone who pays the least
amount of attention will see his whole body language shows fear of being in the
game; that and confusion. Come on coaches, note the obvious3) BYU should
not only train... but USE.. more than on QB in all games. This means we
don't die when one QB goes down, plus it confuses the opponents4) BYU
should let the QB, if he is really good enough to be QB, make more calls and
plays himself. Trust the guy to do the right thing. Give him pointers and
discuss the calls he makes with him but let him be the man in charge. Come on
I've got not much to do this morning so am reading the sports page. Just
one comment. Tanner was in a tough spot. He was taped so thoroughly by necessity
that he was hopping around when under pressure. The kid is game. He has a really
good arm. Yeah, he through two picks but its amazing to me that he wasn't
killed out there. I feel kind of bad for him this morning. I think with all he
had to deal with he did fine. Really, it is unfortunate that we needed to play
an injured kid to start with. Thank you Tanner. You are awesome.
When BYU's best players get dinged up the coaches must scramble to find
solutions. This will likely always be the case because we are not going to have
deep rosters.The players must be quick studies, adjust and learn
complicated schemes quickly, if they can't, we are in trouble.Keep the coaches, they are worth the loyalty and patience.
What rediculous comments. BYU has had better recruiting the last 2
years than before that, they are recruiting the types of players that the
coaches wanted to recruit and the coaching staff need at least another mulligan
year before we call for their heads. We the fans demanded something
better than historic BYU under Mendenhall, and while we might be seeing a
disaster we also might be seeing changes starting - most coaches go through a
transitioning period to enact the changes. If you guys are fans, be
fans. If you are trolls quit kicking a team when it's down,
look at Utah transitioning into the PAC, and keep in mind that Utah might not
end this season well either as Utah is also promising transition that
hasn't quite caught on yet. I'll still cheer for BYU, I
think the coaches will transition to a better level given more time, probably
2019 unfortunately, but I'll live beyond that most likely so bring the
Quarterbacks get most of the glory when things go well and most of the blame
when they don’t. Sometimes the fall from grace can be pretty tough. Fans
had high hopes for Jake Heaps. When he failed to deliver they had no use for
him. I fear the same thing may happen to Tanner.
Lavell Edwards was realistic. His realistic goal was conference championships.
It seems like he already knew the recruiting limitations. BYU should follow his
lead and set realistic goals and help the players feel success along with their
Bottom line. BYU stinks! All the QBs stink! The OC stinks! The head coach
should never have been hired. He's way over his head. Sure he can be the
rah rah rah kind of guy, but that doesn't win games. In fact, it's
time to review all the coaches and re-evaluate their effectiveness. BYU football
has become BYU / Hawaii. The front line might be big, but slow. There is no
running game and the QBs are horrible. Why in the world does BYU believe that a
Mormon coach is essential to the program? I don't think so. Please, for
the sake of honor, fire the entire coaching staff at the end of the year and
really look for someone who know what he is doing. This team stinks all around!
I don't care if they don't win one more game.
Dick, you can analyze losing streaks all you want. The facts remain: 1.) BYU
does not, and cannot recruit the necessary talent to be able to compete week-in
and out with P-5 teams, let alone win. 2.) BYU believing it should be in the
P-5 is... Silly. 3.) The athletic program should digest the humble pie and
realize that a lower tier program is the future, or sports should be dropped by
the school. It's that simple.