Kathleen Parker: A quarter-century of Clintons

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  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2017 11:16 a.m.

    "As a result, Clinton balanced the budget for FOUR years in a row. The Bill Clinton administration made its own luck."

    Are you sure? Didn't the Republican Congress and Newt Gingrich have the majority of responsibility for this?

    Revisionist history is the core of propoganda

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Nov. 11, 2017 12:13 p.m.

    Two years after his election. Bill Clinton gave North Korea nuclear technology and billions of tax per dollars.

    Said this was good for America.

  • wide_awake Montpelier, ID
    Nov. 11, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    What is it exactly with the infatuation of Kathleen Parker and others with the Clintons? Bill Clinton exhibited boorish behavior, ok, duly noted. So did JFK. But they were also demonstrably better presidents than George W. Bush was or Trump will ever be.

    I would not for one second excuse boorish behavior by anyone in a position of power. But consensual sex with Monica Lewinsky did not diminsh the power and prestige of the USA nearly to the extent of what Trump and W have done.

    Get your priorities in order Ms. Parker.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2017 10:05 a.m.

    The only positive of Trump's election is that Hillary Clinton is not president. That said, Trump's hysterical opposition should acknowledge that whatever happens to Donald Trump, Ms. Clinton is unlikely to become president. On election day, Neither was the best choice.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Nov. 11, 2017 9:08 a.m.

    Hey 2-bits -

    RE: "Didn't I hear exact same line from Republicans when Obama was elected?"

    There's a YUGE difference between Obama and Trump. Obama was America's last LEGITIMATE President.

    Trump, on the other hand, took office with the illegal help of Russia, a hostile foreign power.

    And even now, Trump takes the side of Vladimir Putin over our nation’s security agencies.

    ALL true patriots oppose the occupation of our government by a malevolent foreign power and its puppets.

  • Copybook Headings Draper, UT
    Nov. 11, 2017 5:07 a.m.

    Go out and find a book called 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'.

    Ahh ... the good old days ...

    Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar”- Bob Kerry, Democrat, 1996

    “I’m not sure what he meant. His words are subject to multiple interpretations.” — Dem. Rep. Pete Geren on Clinton in 1994

    “The President has kept all of the promises he intended to keep.” – George Stephanopolous, 1996

    “Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find.” ‘James Carville, after Paula Jones made a sexual harassment allegation against Bill Clinton

    “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is” — Bill Clinton’s Grand Jury Testimony

    “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” — Bill Clinton on Monica Lewinsky

    “The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth” — Bill Clinton in 1995

    “There’s just no such thing as truth when it comes to him. He just says whatever sounds good and worries about it after the election” — Bill Clinton on George Bush during the 1992 election

    “It is wrong to raise money on the promise of guaranteeing specific kinds of access. That is wrong and we have stopped that” — Bill Clinton, 1995

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:34 p.m.

    My greatest hope for America is that Bill Clinton will not be the last President of the people and that Mr. Trump will not be the last and final president of the United States of America.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:15 p.m.

    Trump is president. That is the problem we have now; the Clintons are in the past.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 4:43 p.m.

    How would feel if it was your little girl or little boy.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 2:06 p.m.

    @Moderate
    RE: "Now Americans need to do the right thing and make Trump a one term president"...
    ---
    Funny

    Didn't I hear exact same line from Republicans when Obama was elected?

    And weren't' they criticized for saying "we need to make Obama a one-term President"?

    I think they were even called "Racist" for saying that....

    Does that make Moderate a racist?

    Just being facetious Moderate. I know you're not racist. And neither were people who wanted to make Obama a one-term President back when he was elected.

    It happens every time a President is elected (the other side says, "let's make him a one-term President").

    No different when Obama was elected. Just the shoe was on the other foot then (Republicans saying we need to make him a one-term President, and Democrats getting all offended at them saying that).

    Now it's the exact opposite.

    Democrats saying, "we need to make him a one-term President"... and Republicans getting upset about them saying that.

    I'm pretty sure some in Congress said they will not work with Trump (Pelosi, Feinstien, Chuck Schumer, to name a few). And they said they want to make him a one-term President. Same as when Obama was elected. Isn't it?

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Nov. 10, 2017 1:08 p.m.

    "As a result, Clinton balanced the budget for FOUR years in a row. The Bill Clinton administration made its own luck."

    Here let me fix that for you. "As a result, Gingrich balanced the budget for FOUR years in a row. The Newt Gingrich administration made its own luck." Your welcome! Just because you might have this long standing, jealous fixation on lewinsky, doesn't excuse you for lying about bubba.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:57 a.m.

    True, Bill Clinton had an affair, and Republicans literally turned it into a federal crime. Meanwhile, as the attention of the entire nation was fixated on fellatio, Osama Bin Laden took the opportunity to infiltrate 911 terrorists into the United States, where they learned to fly but not land commercial aircraft.

    Monica Lewinksy was not forced into that affair. She admitted as much. Comparing that to the depredations of Donald (grab ‘em by the wherever) Trump is just ridiculous.

    Clinton was an otherwise EXCELLENT President. The same can’t be said of Trump or GW Bush.

    Bill Clinton pushed through higher taxes for high earners. Clinton then gave Al Gore FREE reign to promote the Internet as business conduit. Gore was wildly successful. Investors invested heavily. The resulting dot com boom made FORTUNES for happy investors who ALSO pumped billions of dollars into the treasury BECAUSE of Clinton's higher taxes.

    As a result, Clinton balanced the budget for FOUR years in a row. The Bill Clinton administration made its own luck.

    That is called GOOD GOVERNANCE . . . Something we never see any more when Republicans are in power.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    That's one of the reasons I refused to vote for Hillary Clinton (even though I was disgusted by Trump's behavior).

    I decided early on I would not vote for Hillary Clinton if nominated. That was way before I thought Trump being the Republican nominee was even a remote chance.

    One of the reasons I refused to vote for a Clinton was... that would make it 28 years that America was ruled by either a Clinton or a Bush. that's more than half of my life! And more than half of most voters lifetime. I don't like dynasties. That's not what America is about (to me).

    I would not vote for an Obama Dynasty either, so don't get any ideas Michelle.

    I came very very close to voting for Hillary several times. I thought seriously about it when Trump was nominated (because I was committed to never voting for him as well).

    It's a good thing McMillan came along. Gave me an out.

    I had to vote. But I refused to vote for Trump, and I didn't. But I'm glad I didn't vote for Hillary. No question that was a good decision (for me).

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:40 a.m.

    I am thankful that the Trump election ended two dynasties -- we've had enough of Bush and Clinton. Now, Americans need to do the right thing and make Trump a one term president. Ideally, this would start with the Republican party denying Trump a place on the 2020 ticket.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:40 a.m.

    Back in North Carolina this week and driving to our beach place, my wife and I had this discussion... why now, Weinstein, why was he the trigger for this collective outrage over treatment of woman.... why not Clinton.... why not Donald Trump. Perhaps society has finally had enough. Who knows. I'm glad we are now finally having this discussion.

    The sad fact as an fan of history, is this type of treatment of women is as old as is time. Its nothing new. In fact the "casting couch" has been an issue for a long long time. Issues like what happened with Bill Clinton for a long time have been the norm in Washington - he just got caught. Attitudes like President Trump has towards women have been common among the powered, they just haven't been caught on tape while running for President.

    So yes, I think society is becoming tired of the likes of the Clintons who were willing to sweep indiscretions under the carpet for political expediency.... to keep their political dynasty alive. And I think society is quickly getting tired of the wall street elite like Trump whose "privilege" has extended to things usually religious people would not overlook. And yet they did - and do.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:35 a.m.

    Sadly it will only be over when Hollywood and Government quits influencing adults and youth with soft porn, and violence, marking it with a mature audience rating and pushing it onto the public. Then when companies are formed that try to modify what they are pushing, they hire law firms to sue for their right to influence the public and who is agreeing with them our wonderful courts and the legislatures making the law, and who participates, both sides of the coin, men and women. I don't see women saying NO, they are accepting the money and smiling all the way to the bank! What did the Lord say about lukewarm hypocrisy?

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    @Thomas Thompson "Where has Kathleen Parker been??"

    She might have been reading the current news that Hillary's aides have launched a super-PAC.

    @Thomas Thompson "Hillary Clinton has publicly announced many times that she's not going to run for public office again."

    Were her lips moving?

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 9:23 a.m.

    Trump more egregious than 'slick Willie' ? Give us a break. But, have you noticed how much advertisers use sexuality to sell their products. And drive womens' fashions. Attractions between sexes has been around forever. King David slipped. Marriages fail. All kinds of problems. Morality has been relativised. A return to the God-given morality in the 10 commandments given to Moses and upgraded by Christ is critically important. By men and women.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:57 a.m.

    TMR,

    If I could “love” your comment over “like”, I would.
    My first laugh of the day, thank you.
    I usually feel exactly the same way when I read Parker’s pieces.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:49 a.m.

    Bill learned it all from Ted Kennedy. And Ted got the idea from his brother Jack.

    And yet the Dems claim to be the party that protects the rights of women.

    Go figure.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:47 a.m.

    Former Democratic Party leader Donna Brazile put the last nail in Hillary's political coffin and left the Democrats in total disarray! Good bye Hillary, you were done in by one of your own! Justice has been served, finally! Any volunteers from the Dems to run against President Trump in 2020? Anyone?

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, WA
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:43 a.m.

    Yes- we are all tired of the Clintons, but come on....
    let's be fair and compare apples to apples....

    What about 38 years of the Bush(s)?
    What about all Trump's scandals - after just 9 months?

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    Last week I wrote a comment to another article on the current dust up over sexual misconduct by powerful men against subordinate women/girls. In it I wondered why the author of that article and others of so many articles on the subject that have been written since the Weinstein debacle broke, said little to nothing in comparison to what surely must be considered one of the most flagrant examples of this kind of misconduct in the last 50 years, at least.

    I am speaking, of course, of the case of Bill Clinton and his serial mistreatment of women, both as President and Governor of Arkansas, and the incredibly hypocritical treatment of those women by his chief enabler wife, Hillary.

    It is gratifying to finally see Kathleen draw the obvious comparison that has stood like an ignored 800 lbs. gorilla in the kitchen corner since this scandal storm broke several weeks ago.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:37 a.m.

    "Twenty-five years ago on Nov. 3, 1992, William Jefferson Clinton was elected president of the United States — and Hillary Clinton is still trying to take his place." Where has Kathleen Parker been?? Hillary Clinton has publicly announced many times that she's not going to run for public office again.

  • Husker2 Millbrook, AL
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:26 a.m.

    @EDM "We cannot compare the Clintons and the Trumps."

    You're right. Donald Trump has not disgraced his position by committing adultery in the Oval Office (yet).

    @pragmatist "...watch them try and appeal to a public with low paying jobs, dying from untreated illness, and coping with constant mass murders."

    These problems began and have grown long before Donald Trump even thought of getting into politics, and can be blamed on both Democrats and Republicans.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    The thing I find most appalling about the Clinton Scandals, was how the GOP actually had the guts to have three men who were currently having affairs, one with young boys, go after the President for a consensual relationship. Hardly child molesting like Hastert, yet they make it sound as though Clinton's actions were a million times worse.

    Trump said because of his power and wealth he was allowed to molest women, married or not, and to walk into dressing rooms, please show me where Clinton was so brazen in his arrogance?

    I don't get the blatant hypocrisy the right continues to display with pride?

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 10, 2017 7:20 a.m.

    "Yes, please let it be over. We are so sick of them."

    I hope I live long enough to see a Republican party that has reduced taxes to the point there is literally no where to go, and the Clintons so far in the rear view mirror, that new voters don't know or care who they are, and watch them try and appeal to a public with low paying jobs, dying from untreated illness, and coping with constant mass murders.

  • Lone Eagle Aurora, CO
    Nov. 10, 2017 6:55 a.m.

    "...as Hillary winds up her revenge book tour." Remember the title of the book: "What Happened?" Think on the three kinds of people: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who wonder what happened.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 6:13 a.m.

    Title should be: 25 years of Scandals with No Justice under the Law.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Nov. 10, 2017 5:58 a.m.

    I'm still waiting for her to apologize for all the things she said about women with whom her husband slept. Many were fellow Democrats. And I remember all the things she said about everyone who believed that her husband had slept with other women. Many of them were fellow Democrats, too. She is pro-women, according to her, but many of the people she detests the most are women. I was a Democrat then, but because of how the party turned against women and children and families, I left. Most people think better of women than Hillary does.

  • TMR Los Angeles, CA
    Nov. 10, 2017 1:58 a.m.

    A slick, but overly simplified cause-and-effect analysis with a dangling conclusion that leaves me wondering, as I usually do when reading a Parker op-ed piece in the Post: what is her point? Is it the Clintons would be in power instead of Trump had Hilary responded differently to her husband’s moronic behavior or are the Clintons responsible for the moral decay of society leading to a Trump presidency?

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 12:11 a.m.

    The Clinton's?

    The Republican Party used Bill as a punch-line to any number of jokes for years.

    Inexplicably...the Republican Party nominates and elects a Bill on steroids as their president.

    Priceless.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2017 11:51 p.m.

    “Had the Clintons played their cards differently, our country might have become less coarse, and our infantile impulsiveness less pronounced. It might not have taken 25 years for women to find their voices. More men might have treated their female colleagues with greater respect. Who knows? Hillary Clinton might have become president. And Donald Trump, whose disrespect toward women is epic, might not have.”

    Please spare us, Kathleen. We cannot compare the Clintons and the Trumps.

  • Enough is enough! Saint George, UT
    Nov. 9, 2017 10:49 p.m.

    Yes, please let it be over. We are so sick of them.

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Nov. 9, 2017 8:14 p.m.

    Please let it be over