Romney’s poor judgement in his 2012 campaign & his jockeying just to
win votes (libs against Kennedy in MA & Tea Party in 2012) tells me his
political integrity is nil. His poor judgement in campaign decisions made me
feel he wasn't all he claimed to be.Hatch grew up in PA. Romney
in MI, & then was a long time resident (& governor) of MA. Though he
lived here for the 2002 SLC Olympics, & (apparently) lives here now, he
doesn't know Utah like someone who has lived here all (or at least, most)
of his life. Orrin Hatch knows enough to get re-elected every 6 years. But he
promised voters this was his last term. But politicians’ promises
can’t be trusted. They know most voters forget, so they just "change
their mind”.Romney's country club values & attitude
are much of what turned voters off in 2012 (& did for me too then, &
now).Like he did in 2012, Romney will put his finger in the wind to
see which way it's blowing (like he did to suck up to tea partyers), &
like he did when he ran for the senate against Ted Kennedy in MA years ago. This
does not indicate a person of true political integrity. If he shifts to get
elected, who says he won't shift for other political expediencies?
Romney would have my vote (as he has had in the past).
Fullypresent - Salt Lake City, UTPlease wake up and smell the roses.
If Hatch decides to run again he will will again. Who could the Democrats in
Utah select that could possibly beat him? Seriously, a Hail Mary from the 1
yard line wouldn't be enough for them win ...... and they know that.
Hatch isn't deciding. The voters will. They are the ones that should
decide. It is their Senate seat.
"If he runs on the Republican ticket, to be honest he will have to describe
himself as a RINO"And he should own that title with pride. It
means he believes in actually doing things right. That he is balanced. That he
considers all sides to an issue. That he would work with all groups to advance
the agenda. So yes...... being a Rino should be viewed as a term
of intelligence..... It's those the claim to not be Rino's that
should be avoided at all cost. They are the ones responsible for electing one
of the most crude men to be President of this nation.... by their fruits ye
shall know them. Trump or Romney? I would take a Rino Romeny
over a crude elitist Trump any day of the week.
In Massachusetts he was a conservative for a citizen there. He worked with both
parties to get things done. Utah elected GOP officials have not learned that
with their Democrat colleagues in the Senate or the House. This is amazing as
the GOP runs the state agencies. The Democrats are considered a hiss and a
byword in Utah. That lack of a real two-party system in Utah has created a
discernible rift. Salt Lake City and County has been gerrymandered so much by
the GOP government that the Democrats never get ahold in the Legislature. Once
in awhile a Democrat Governor gets elected but that has been a rarity in 100
years. The State Department and Agency leadership is 99.9% GOP
cronies. That causes some problems for Salt Lake City and County Democrat
leaders, elected and appointed.
Run Mitt run.
I can tell you as a person whom has been disappointed by Romney several times
that he is not either conservative or a Republican. If he runs on the
Republican ticket, to be honest he will have to describe himself as a RINO. He
didn't behave as a Republican in Massachusetts, you couldn't tell his
actions from those of the governor he replaced or the one that followed him.
When he ran for President, he was weak, couldn't or wouldn't fight. I
voted for him and in the end was almost glad he didn't win! I don't
think he was worse than Obama, and had he won, it's likely that we
wouldn't be in the hole we're in, but at best he'd be as weak as
Jimmy Carter in my opinion.
''is reaching out to Utah power brokers and making other moves toward
getting in the race.'' Totally consistent for Mitt's sons or
grandsons, if they want to get into politics, and give up their nights,
weekends, and holidays, forever and forever.
Not in my lifetime.
Senator Hatch has served Utah as an outsider from Pennsylvania stating his
seniority would help Utah. He gets his left hand seat with President Trump and
the Senator appears he likes his glorified position. His Senate Tax Plan is
basically the reverse of the House plan so in conference we’re not sure
which one we will have.The rich will gain at the expense of the
nation.Trump debased Mitt Romney over 2-years ago during the
campaign in September 2015. Trump doesn’t like anyone but his mirror
image. Trump abuses women as Access Hollywood validated with his own voice.
Trump’s base voted for him.At least Mitt has stood up against
Judge Moore when GOP leadership anywhere won’t do it. The Judge as a
Judge most likely sentenced people for abusing women and girls. As an
Assistant-DA he was in a position of trust. In that position, Moore is held to
a higher standard and he should lose his license to practice law and be
tried.I know of people that were not in a position of trust and
spent years in prison for acts with a 14-year old.We need Senators
willing to be examples for integrity and who value morals and honesty. He even
provided his IRS returns, unlike Trump.
I like him out of the stratosphere more than Orrin. And he has my respect
because he is one of the few that hasn't kissed Mr. Trump's pinky
Romney is not a Utahn. Remember how fast he left Utah when he wanted to run as a
governor of Massachusetts! He amended past returns and stated he wasn’t a
resident of Utah. He will say anything to get elected!!!
LOW ENERGY Orrin Hatch hasn't noticed yet, he has retired, long ago.
"Romney became a national embarrassment the way he went after Trump"Au contraire mon ami. Trump took a stand while others just coward and
fell in line with Bannon and Trump. I stopped being an active Republican
because the trend that Gingrich started - not the party of conservatism, but the
party of sell out to the highest bidder. It's time to stop that trend.
It's time for the principled "conservatives" to take back the party
from the snarky crowd that only offers negative, and next to nothing in the form
of solutions.I would whole heartedly support a Mitt Romney
"Rino" campaign to fight back the privileged elite fraternity Wall
Street brothers rule. We need more doers, and less complainers. We need more
leaders, less gropers.
@casual observer"How will the left wing campaign against
Romney?"*shrugs* A Democrat isn't going to win against
anyone. Trump still won by 20 even though we had a 3rd party option we could
vote for. So in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter how the
left campaigns against Romney. Frankly I'd be happy if he runs, if my side
is going to lose either way I'd rather it be to someone with dignity like
him and Curtis.
Republicans in this state are conflicting. They dont want rinos but trumps is
one.They want tax cuts even if it adds to the debt. They
are not interested in spending cuts.I would say Mitt would fit in
just fine with the republican voters of this state.
How will the left wing campaign against Romney? They really can't accuse
him of being a Trump supporter. The discredited personal attacks during his
presidential bid have been exposed as untrue and Harry Reid can't falsely
tell us that Romney paid no income taxes.
Romney lost the Presidency which has been altered to become the most powerful
position in the world and in all of the world's history, safe from any
threat of coup no matter what High Crimes the Executive commits; because of the
Mormon NWO conspiracy and the Marriott video porn scandal still on the minds of
the nation, so why not run for Senate where he can be given bonus bribery
payments by lobbyists who will later extort from him to pass laws that will
financially benefit those lobbyists and where he can be elected by the State
with the highest concentration of Mormons to avoid the NWO conspiracy and remain
in the position until he has a sufficient retirement for generations of his
descendants. I guess if Romney chooses he will be giving up ultimate power for
more money and Hatch would then be giving up 3rd position to become President,
realizing we can no longer dethrone a corrupt Executive no matter how much
direct evidence a Special Counsel has to prosecute a sitting President.
In making these signals now, Mitt is attempting to signal to Hatch that the
latter needs to get out of the way. The ham-handed way he's going about
it, however, is likely to have just the opposite effect. Given the seniority
system presently in place in Congress, Hatch could do considerably more for Utah
as a Senator than Mitt would ever accomplish. OTOH, it must be said I'd
accept most any Democrat over either of them. I also think Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox
would be a fine candidate, too.
Mitt, you are yesterday’s news. You should run in Massachusetts not Utah.
We need younger much more conservatives than you in congress.
Orrin, time to move on. You're not indispensible.
There should be a succession ceremony with a royal parade.
Mitt, you’re a great guy but please just go away.
We need a conservative who lives in Utah running for Senator. Mitt is a
progressive who keeps company with more liberal minded people. He speaks out
against the president and would be of no value to Utah as a Senator. Surely we
can do better.
Sad that Utah is exited about retreading Mitt got a run. Besides being rich and
lds I do not see why Utahns are facinated with this guy.
TherapyMan makes a good point.Mitt's from Boston. His dad was
from Detroit. His grampa was from Mexico.Then again, Orrin really
doesn't have close ties to Utah either.The only thing I can
figure is that they represent the State of Mormon. Aside from the fact that no
such political jurisdiction exists, it begs the question why we don't have
enough home-grown talent to fill the office.No thanks, Mitt.
Romney became a national embarrassment the way he went after Trump. He showed
that he is is just as nasty, petty and divisive as the worst of them. We
don't need his ilk in congress. And I wouldn't call Romney's
politics conservative, either. I've had enough of the RINO's. As much
as I think Hatch should retire, I'd take Hatch over Romney any day!
Trump could invite him to Trump Tower for a free dinner with the proverbial
carrot that Trump might make him the Secretary of Something.
Hopefully he'll go home to Massachusetts to do it.
Mitt is a good man; I made a large contribution to his presidential campaign.
However, Utah should elect someone similar to Mike Lee. We don't need
another RINO in the Senate. McConnell and McCain are sand in the wheels of
progress. Utah should elect someone who will support President Trump's
agenda, so ObamaCare gets repealed and the budget gets approved.
One thing we don't need is another John McCain or Mitch McConnell in the
Senate.Besides, Mitt gave that kid a "noogie" in middle
school. Obviously, that automatically disqualifies him.😁
Run Orrin so I can vote against you. Power turns otherwise decent people into
pathetic stubborn career politicians. Orrin, go see your family.
Mitt is too old but if he really wants it - go for it!
We need a Utahn to run, not a carpet bagger. It is time for new faces in
Mitt is a good man, and by Massachusetts standards can be called a
conservative.However, living here for a short time does not make him
a Utahn, nor a conservative.Mitt is already 70 years old, and that
is 9 years older than the average U.S. Senator, and not a step towards a
youthful congress able to cope with solving the problems that younger
generations have been saddled with by the olde folks in Congress who have spent
their way to reelection instead of making tough decisions.Romney
could be a good Senator, even better than average, but we need another strong
conservative willing to actually stand up and fight to cut wasteful spending,
fight tax increases, repeal Obamacare and the other stuff every Republican has
promised, but only a handful have tried to act on. Hatch campaigned on those
issues, but never gets accomplished.Mitt should run for Senate in
Massachusetts against Elizabeth Warren.
First the Senate. Then Romney for President. Because hindsight is 2020.Remember, most Utahns voted against Trump. In fact Utah was anti-Trump before
it was so popular.
I'd rather have someone from Utah to run for Senate that lives and works
here and deals with average persons day to day life! We Don't need another
Billionaire to tell us that he is working for us! And we do not need another
Didn't Orrin Hatch say he wasn't going to run again last time he was
Please run Mitt please run. U R exactly what trump and the country need.
Nothing more to say.
Romney should run even if it means running against Hatch in a primary; he would
win hands down. Of course he won't do that but it would be nice to have
some new blood representing Utah, someone who wouldn't just be a Trump
'yes' man.Hatch won his first election in 1976 against
Frank Moss partially by campaigning on the basis of Moss' 18 years and four
terms in office. Well 42 years and seven terms later it's time for Hatch
to recognize his great contributions and to bow out gracefully.
There is one person who could make the decision for him.