This makes as much sense as suing gun manufacturers for making a gun that
someone uses in a crime 10 years later. The Gun did not commit the crime. On the
same note, The prescription drug manufacturer did not commit the crime here. The
user made the decision to use the drug outside the prescribed use / dose /
length of time. I guarantee that everyone who has a problem with addiction to
painkillers lied, cheated, stold etc. to get the vast majority of the drugs,
both legal and illegal, they use(d) to feed their addiction. Lawyers get
rich on things like this. No one else wins.
The reason they are suing the drug manufacturers is because that is the only
place they can get enough money to make it worthwhile. Lawyers will be the ones
who make out like bandits on this. The most blame has to be on the users.
The next most has to be on the doctors who prescribe the painkillers and I think
most doctors do not do this. I recently had surgery and was given a painkiller
prescription. It was enough to last about 7-14 days depending on whether I took
maximum or minimum doses or somewhere in-between. I took them until I could get
by with over the counter medicine. This is how patients are instructed to use
painkillers. The Pain killers were great. But I stopped using them when I did
not need them anymore.There may be a very small percentage of doctors who
are irresponsible with their prescription writing but how in the he!! is this
the drug manufacturers fault? People need to take responsible for their own
actions and we need to reign in a legal system that does nothing more that
"chase ambulances" looking for a way to sue big business and insurance
companies. The real problem is our legal system and the laws they create and use
to make billions each year.
So big government is suing the drug companies for manufacturing a LEGAL drug??
Once again bureaucracy trumps common sense....This leaves millions of senior
citizens living with intolerable pain.. I have a unique suggestion.. How about
punishing the CRIMINALS instead of law-abiding citizens....
Are you accomplishing stopping the distribution of opiods on the street? When
the opiods are cumming from doctors perscriptions. extra drugs are as easily to
find as a doctor that does a quick prescription and says call me and I'll
increase the prescription as you want. that is one doctor my family never saw
again. Will this turn into a national referendum on the issue opiods?
I am in shock reading through the comments posted on this story! All of you need
to turn off your televisions with Drug Company ads running every 5 seconds to
brainwash you into believing they're doing so much good for society &
go read court transcripts where you can read what these drugmakers say under
oath! That is where you will learn of the deception involved in prescribing
prescription drugs! There is so much corruption, so much lying &
deceit behind the marketing & prescribing of these drugs that the largest
pharmaceutical company in our country was found guilty of RICO, yes
racketeering, several years ago which should have shut them down. Instead, they
pulled some strings & suffered little to no consequences & are still in
business! Deception about a product is certainly unethical but in
pharmaceutical drugs it can be fatal! How quickly people forget all the drug
nightmares we have suffered! Vioxx, Fen-phen, PCP, Ecstasy, etc. Nearly every
illegal drug we have began as a prescription drug. In 1995 pharmacists put out
a study warning that 200,000 people a year are dying by taking prescription
drugs, as prescribed, not from overdoses or abuse!
There are hundreds of thousands of folks that take and have taken opiods after
multiple surgeries and have not moved onto heroin. Those in addiction made a
bad choice to relieve their "pain". Yes 80% of heroin users used other
opiods first and they chose to use those also.This approach does nothing
to stop the root problem. Those that "try" heroin know that it is
highly addictive (almost after the first try) but they still do it. No
one wants an addict.This circumvents the recovery for addicts as they are
taught in rehab that it is no one's "fault" they are an addict but
themselves and that the first part of recovery is realizing that fact. Now
it's someone else's fault.Grand standing at its most uninformed,
ill conceived best.
Are we next going to sue the manufacturers of alcoholic beverages for the costs
associated with drunk driving, lost productivity and domestic abuse?How about the people who sell alcoholic beverages? That may be complicated by
the fact that the State of Utah sells alcoholic beverages, which is almost a
stamp of approval. Kind of like what they are accusing the drug companies
This whole thing by McAdams, et. al. is called "lazy litigation" The
individual Dr's. would be MORE difficult to go after, therefore they go
after big pharma.I'm no fan of big pharma, but ALL they did was
create the medicine - DR.'s prescribed it.Kind of like when
advocates of gun control try to go after the creators of the "tools".Likely this lawsuit will fail, just like those did.Politicing - NOTHING more!
So what are patients recovering from surgery and are in pain supposed to do?
Take an aspirin? One of the reasons medicines are so expensive is
that the manufacturers have to defend against politicians like our liberal Salt
Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams.And people wonder why Mia Love will
win the 2018 election?
We have a system for managing this. Doctors write prescriptions as needed.
Pharmacists dispense per the prescriptions, and include warning information with
the medications. The patient is expected to use good judgement in using the
medication, and in protecting it from getting into the hands of those who would
misuse it.The DEA has been hammering doctors for some time, to the
point that it is difficult for those in need of the meds to get them. Some
doctors, and occasionally some pharmacists, participate in over-distribution.
But the big problem is with patients who use poor judgement and/or distribute
their surplus pills. Individual responsibility.Some of the problem
is bypassing our domestic system, with drugs coming in from foreign countries,
as evidenced by the recent arrest in Cottonwood Heights.Yes, many
heroin users start with prescription narcotics, but those people make poor
witnesses in court, so it makes this a challenging case.It all comes
down to personal responsibility. If your loved one is an addict, they have
chosen to be an addict. They need to make hard choices and big changes. Blaming
the drug companies won't make them better.
Again, government is going to drive the cost of medicine up and then blame
"Big Pharma" for the increase in cost.Some on here have likened
this to smoking and the lawsuits to tobacco. I don't see a direct parallel
since smoking doesn't have a medicinal benefit. These medicines, properly
prescribed and used, are very beneficial.As for the stats...they need to
clearly delineate those who legally take it from those who take it illegally.
Then the stats have more meaning. Although 80% of heroine users start with
opioids, is it true that all of them started legally? If so the argument is
strong. If not, it needs to be clearly studied.
Once upon a time...government got so big and so expensive that the citizens had
no more to give. The cost of government took 44% of GDP.But the
bureaucrats still needed to be paid. And entitlements still needed to be paid.
And benefits paid for and promised still needed to be delivered. And suppliers
(nudge-nudge) had invoices.What's a politician to do? We need
"new revenue streams."Soda tax. Charge them for the sugar
they drink.Then there's the VW cash. That was slick. Catch them
at something and they send checks to government.Let's try that
with drug companies. What could possibly go wrong?And Ben's
from the party that knows how to create taxes.
Why not?Sue the companies that make the drug and forget the Dr's that
Mayor McAdams needs another campaign strategy in his run for congress. Without
looking for causes or solutions, as a lawyer all he can think of is to sue
someone. Utah deserves a more thoughtful approach to the problem.
Maybe instead the target should be "Big Politics" and "Big
Government" and these specific politicians. Or maybe "Big
Government" should sue "Big Food and Drug Administration" that
approves these drugs to be marketed, prescribed, and sold.
Another reason why I look forward to voting for Ben McAdams. He's the best
prominent elected official in the state. I'm glad to see this
story running today along with an article about "the untold story of how
Utah doctors and Big Pharma helped drive the national opioid epidemic."
Utah's medical expert advocated the use of opioids and told us they were
under-prescribed, Utah physicians repeatedly prescribed opioids in large numbers
and Utahn's bought and sold opioids on the street. Suing Big Pharma is
equivalent to suing automobile manufacturers because they make cars that go
faster than the speed limit. Mayor McAdams is looking for photo ops
and fails to recognize the primary fault in this issue.
What a waste of printing space! Big Pharma is like any other business except the
numerous red tape they have to jump through to make it to the market. But, those
red tapes are there for our protection and safety. Demands create supplies. Who
demands the opioids? Who dispenses opioids negligently? Who uses the opioids
irresponsibly? Now, go after them. You have a case! I had several orthopedic
surgeries and those opioids came through for me during those painful times.
Thank goodness Big Pharma made them available for me in my time of unbearable
There ya go....sue the drug manufacturers because it would be totally against
reality to hold someone accountable for what they put in their mouths. Sue, sue,
sue, then sit back and wonder why our insurance premiums sky rocket. This nation
and it's society has gone of the rails.
Well that ought to be going nowhere, what with President Trump nominating Big
Pharma executive Alex Azar as Health and Human Services Secretary to replace Tom
Personally, I'm not in favor of suing anyone. If anyone should
get sued, it should be the doctors that prescribe the medication.I
guess Adams is apparently running for another office, eh?Our hard
earned tax money can be better spent on treatment of those that want treatment.
Not in paying lawyers for something that the county won't win.Another question, who is "Big Pharma" anyway.
Not sure that suing big pharma over this is the answer. What about the
providers who actually prescribed the drugs? What impact will this law suit
have on how big pharma makes up for the damages in raising fees for other
non-opioid drugs?Big pharma needs to be reined in for sure - but not
just for marketing opioid drugs, they have gouged and ruined countless other
lives by financially breaking people with what they charge for their various
products. Put big pharma under a regulated system and then you can
better manage their immoral behavior.
Next they need to sue the spoon industry because too many people are fat.
In the world of Drugs when you go after the Drug Lords, others merely step up to
take their place. Just like removing Saddam Hussein resulted in replacements
rising to power. N Korea still receives supplies because their trading
businesses just keep changing their names, so they are not considered on the
blacklist @ the boarders. This is what Big Pharma will do, simply change the
name of opioids, that's what the TV ad drugs do after a lawsuit. In this
case it's the Doctors who are writing prescriptions for opioids. We need to
start by making it illegal for Doctors to prescribe any & all forms of
opioid taking away their medical licenses for violations & punishing
Hospitals that do not monitor their Doctors & detox centers are needed for
victims. Then phase two is to stop manufacturing of opioids & thus further
distribution to Hospitals & Pharmacies, which are to destroy or turn in
remaining supplies & this will instantly result in Insurance Companies no
longer approving opioids. This will result in an underground black market for
opioids & their consequential mutations, but mainstream society will be
protected if they don't seek them out & if victims are properly
Just one more in a long line of reasons to vote for Mia Love in 2018.
I don't see Big Pharm as the sole problem here. Where is the physician
(aks the one who prescribed the opiod) responsibility in all of this? I see way
too many physicians simply cater to the patient because the patient complains /
throws a fit / etc.
Who's going to sue Ben McAdams for the "irresponsible
distribution" of our taxes?
I bet not one penny of any settlement they may receive will make it to those
actually affected by opioid addiction.
Tobacco got sued, but some lady sued after spilling coffee in her lap at some
fast food joint, an won. The drug Staten drug that that what I would be
Bravo! Long, long overdue!! Few families have escaped this drug nightmare! Utah
has long been Pharma's laboratory as the Ritalin capitol, the Valium
capitol, the Antidepressant capitol of the nation and I watched as patient after
patient were led from antidepressants onto these highly addictive pain killers.
I have a young relative in SL county who followed that same pattern after a car
accident and has been dealing with one mind altering prescription drug after
another since & is currently fighting an addiction to these opiods now. For "No One of Consequence" who made his statement before
bothering to read the next sentence...80% of those on heroin became addicted to
the opioids first. And then everyone knows they go to the heroin because
it's cheaper then the opioids are. So they are the ones responsible for the
addiction.In Rev 18:23 & 24 John warned there would be a great
deception about pharmakeia (drugs from a pharmacy) which would flood the world
in our day & would end in the deaths Prophets, Saints, & good men. That
day has clearly arrived & I await with anticipation additional suits to be
Instead of suing, require a warning written and verbal to be given with each
Nothing more then grandstanding here for a congressional run. What a trifecta we
it with Hughes. Biskupski and now MacAdams. I employ the good folks of the SL
valley and whole of Utah to do a better job when casting your ballot. We are
doing an extremely poor job when vetting and electing our leaders.
Very good news. It reminds me a lot of the lawsuits against Big Tobacco that
netted huge payouts for the states.
It should be interesting to see how this all pans out. I am not sure where I
come down on all of this.
What good is it to sue the manufacturers? did they hide information of the
addictive tendencies of opioids? if they are going for at what levels they cause
addiction, that depends person to person and not even the person taking them can
know. I am generally against lawsuits unless they are absolutely necessary. Will
this lawsuit relieve financial pressure of treating the public? or are we just
getting enough back to pay for the lawyers? or are we going to lose money and
just tax more? will this solve anything? I doubt it.
This is ridiculous.Opioids when used correctly are godsend to
people. Total miscarriage of justice and blame.Nobody wants to take
personal responsibility for anything.
"McAdams said 90 percent of people who were arrested in Operation Rio Grande
and assessed for drug court in jail were heroin users."Who do we
sue for that? Are we going after the cartels?
So tired of this guy's grandstanding. Can't wait until Mia sends him
straight back to Salt Lake County where he can keep importing more homeless.
MacAdams loves creating problems that only he can solve (wait - it was the
Legislature who came in and cleaned the place up after the Dems turned Salt Lake
into Santa Claus County).