Trump: 'Public lands will once again be for public use'

8 conservation groups file lawsuit shortly after president's Utah visit to shrink monuments

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  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 1:42 p.m.

    Hey Donnie -- the monument land has always been for public use. It jut hasn't been available for being polluted, despoiled and damaged. The national monument designation needs to be restored so that the lands can be protected. From you and your donors who want to destroy the land.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 12:34 a.m.

    Is "extraction" a public use? I'm confused.

  • Edmunds Tucker St George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:55 a.m.

    ''Lyman, who spent 10 days in jail and was ordered to pay $96,000 in restitution after leading an ATV ride protesting motorized vehicle restrictions in Recapture Canyon, said the president's actions "restore the county's voice."

    For history also See Deserat News column for background. COURTROOM DRAMA: `TRIAL OF GEORGE Q. CANNON' IS STATE BAR'S CONTRIBUTION TO CENTENNIAL. Ivan M. Lincoln, Theater Editor September 13, 1996. The column can be found by a search of the DesNews.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 12:13 p.m.

    @Harrison Bergeron - Dec. 5, 2017 10:51 a.m.
    @ Furry1993

    Your explanation is spot on. I hope the liberals read it. They have all been claiming that the land will now be sold to the highest bidder for development, coal and uranium mining, etc., etc. It wasn't endanger of any of this before, nor is it now.

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    Unfortunately, if the land is owned by the US and managed by the BLM, it CAN be sold for development, coal and uranium mining, petroleum drilling, etc. This must not be permitted to happen -- the land must be protected and kept safe from despoilment and pollution. I have a very difficult time seeing Trump or a government headed by him, having any care or concern about protecting the land. He cares only about raking in bucks and gaining adoration and that doesn't match well with protecting ecologically delicate land.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    @ Furry1993

    Your explanation is spot on. I hope the liberals read it. They have all been claiming that the land will now be sold to the highest bidder for development, coal and uranium mining, etc., etc. It wasn't endanger of any of this before, nor is it now.

    What it does mean is that SOME of what was part of the two monuments reverts back to what it was before: BLM or National Forest control. Which means that everyone will have greater access to the land to hunt, camp, ride ATVs, etc.

  • goodnight-goodluck Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 10:08 a.m.

    Said in his best impression of Winston Smith, weakness is strength, lies are truth, war is peace, etc. Seems our Government has taken Orwell's 1984 from a classic novel to a Policy and Procedure Manual.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    It saddens me to read a lot of the comments on this page. There is a huge disconnect in the minds of a lot of people who commented here. Let me explain.

    The land within the boundaries of the originally-described Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante Monuments NEVER belonged of the state of Utah. It has always been, and still remains federally-owned land (owned collectively by the people of the Untied States). Utah and its people has never had any ownership interest or management control over this land.

    The United States obtained ownership of this and, along with other land, through the treaty ending the Mexican War that ended in 1848. When the US carved out the state of Utah at its incorporation, In Section 3 paragraph second of the Enabling Act "the people inhabiting said proposed State do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within the boundaries thereof;" ... The monument designation and reduction changed the type of uses to which the US government could put the land, but did not in any way change the ownership of the land.

    The land has always been owned, and is still owned, by the USA. Not Utah.

  • Hugh1 Denver, CO
    Dec. 5, 2017 2:55 a.m.

    Coal. Coal. Coal. That's always been the back story, but not a mention. After you've strip mined for coal, what do you get? The land looks like a monstrous landfill with a fake prairie on top, something like a ridiculous ill-fitting toupee for the desert.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:53 p.m.

    In a University business class at USU I learned a truism that appears to have general historical validity.

    .. Power abused is power lost ..

    The 'environmentalists' got greedy. If they want true sustainable conservation, they should look for ways to do it that won't abuse people's rights. .. They will not go out of their way to abuse people's rights.

    Otherwise there will be blowback as we have seen today.

  • Captain Green Heber City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:17 p.m.

    We are very pleased with the President's action on this. The federal government has mushroomed into a gigantic behemoth that is almost out of control. And it must be reined in at every opportunity. President Trump realizes this and is doing a good job of returning rights to the States where they belong.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:09 p.m.

    Thank you, President Trump. You are the first POTUS who has the courage to do the right thing and give land back to a state instead of the federal land grab. The Feds own 2/3 of Utah land. 1.6 more million acres was not necessary for the monuments. I think a fair compromise was given. I'll take it and say, thank you! The people of Utah will do just fine managing this land that belongs us not the Federal Government!

    Thank you to all of the Congressional Delegation who also supported this decision. Their 100% commitment is wonderful indeed.

    God bless America, and God bless President Trump!

  • jparry Provo, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 8:27 p.m.

    @Bluto

    "The Five Tribes already have their reservations (lands)."

    Reservations--their lands?! Those tribes have lived in that entire region for centuries before white settlers came, but then were forced to live in relatively small patches of unwanted land.

    Mr. Lyman wants to restore the lands to their historical uses?! That's exactly what the Five Tribes want to do, which involves respecting the sacredness of land where they built houses, raised families, buried their dead for, again, centuries.

    By all means, let's respect property rights and restore the lands to their historical uses. May the courts do so. It's truly the least we can and should do by nations and tribes we have historically abused and exploited.

  • BigAlAvenger Summit, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 8:10 p.m.

    Wow, 5000 people demonstrated at the capitol. That leaves a couple of million that apparently approve of this great act of justice. Thank you President Trump and Secretary Zinke. Just as the Constitutions Electoral College protects our nation from the enormous populations of California and New York our President has accomplished protecting Utah from all of the enormously wealthy environmental groups outside of Utah. Thank you President Trump.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 7:04 p.m.

    The statement "Public lands will once again be for public use" is reminiscent of the recent argument about the meaning of "marriage".

    Traditionally, many of us were taught, in Public Schools, that the word "Public" as seen in phrases like Public lands, Public use, Public schools, Public parks, and the Public square, encompassed the entire population of the United States of America, in an equal and propriety ownership of the object.

    Business groups, in their quest for wealth, are constantly seeking control of land real estate for their use that removes the wealth of the land after which they move on leaving the worn out land to the Public owners to repair.

    It is by their undemocratic control of our government that they can do this.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:36 p.m.

    The five tribes of Utah already have their "Reservations" (lands).
    Their claim on the rest of Southern Utah is a bit much.

    And to all the hysterical folks who want it all?
    These lands are not going away and are still protected.
    They're still Public Lands managed by the Feds.

    They just won't be locked up by special interests i.e. Robert Redford types, via Gargantuan Monuments.

    Mixed use is proper.

  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:34 p.m.

    Isn't there a government shut down this week. Why are all of them out here instead of Washington? I know it will be the democrats fault. Sad day

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:15 p.m.

    Trump: 'Public lands will once again be for public use'

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    By "public", I'm sure he means [Corporations are people, public]

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:13 p.m.

    If someone comes along and tells trump they can make a buck off those public lands, they won't be for public use anymore.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:03 p.m.

    Trump: 'Public lands will once again be for public use'

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    Oh yes -- and Trump brought Christmas back,
    and makes the sun come up in the mornings!

  • FanOf"ChuckARama" Vernal, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:54 p.m.

    Now he is going to say, "Welfare Square is doing so well because of me" and "100% of the Mormons love me there in Utah, all over the country and all over the world as well".....LOL!

  • Common Sense Guy Richfield, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:46 p.m.

    Something seems a bit ironic to me. The one characteristic that I really hate about President Trump is when he makes personal attacks. The irony is every negative comment about this story is a personal attack. What I like about President Trump is that he actually does what he says he is going to do. President Trump made a decision that is good for the State of Utah and good for the local people in these communities, and all I see on the comments are personal attacks. The Grand Staircase designation created a real economic hardship in Garfield County and the surrounding communities. I applaud this decision.

  • One opinion west jordan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:42 p.m.

    I appreciate what President Trump did for the state of Utah today. Think what would happen if every state in the Union had to give up as much land as Utah has done over the years. I didn't vote for Trump but appreciate him listening. I'm not from Utah, but live here now and love it. I don't understand all the angry and stirred up people and worry about this kind of attitude when it comes to making our nation strong. Again, I appreciate what President Trump did today and say, "Thank you, from the bottom of my heart!"

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:29 p.m.

    I wake up everyday and thank God, Hillary is not the POTUS. Today is another reason I am so grateful for President Trump. For most of my life Liberals have shoved down the public throat, their vision of government control. Now we have a president who has said, enough is enough, no more will we tolerate the removal of our rights. We the people, we the citizens of Utah, can manage, oversee, and use our lands without someone unelected, unaccountable, Washington bureaucrat controlling our lands. Thank You President Trump.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:27 p.m.

    Bravo Trump. He partially righted two wrongs perpetuated by previous presidents for all the wrong reasons. Now change the antiquities act so it can't be used for holding large areas of land hostage.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:09 p.m.

    "and once again we see what Obama did Trump un-did. Thank heaven once again!!!"

    And once again the Republican dystopia moves on.

    We will hold you accountable..count on it.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 5:01 p.m.

    patriot - said: "and once again we see what Obama did Trump un-did. Thank heaven once again!!!"

    Those who can't create, destroy.
    Those who can't govern, blame.
    Those with no morals sell their heritage for a piece of silver.

    When is Donald going to do something, besides try and erase Obama?

    Sad little boy, trying to impress others.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 4, 2017 4:40 p.m.

    "I never liked Obama, but I wouldn't dream of doing the kinds of things against him that the left does every day with Trump."

    Cap..... I agree with the intent of this comment. I can' t stand Trump one bit...... his morals make me sick. But...... at the end of the day, regardless of whom is in office, we should never lower ourselves to what ever perceived level we think the other person is at.

    But please..... please tell me you didn't miss all he very nasty things "conservatives" said about Obama? Surely those things haven't faded already into oblivion already. Absolutely doesn't justify "leftist" using eh same tactics.... not at all. But to pretend we didn't spend the last 8 years saying absolutely unflattering things about Obama would be revisionist at best.

    And shockingly the headline is fine with me, because these lands were, and still are, the People's lands. All that is changing is the name on the sign outside these lands. The land ownership hasn't changed, and the group managing them hasn't either. And yes, better community interaction on the management of the lands is always a good thing.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 4:24 p.m.

    Prometheus Platypus - Orem, UT

    Who said anything about me liking Trump? I do not like the man on a moral ground as well as political ground.

    As for Chaffetz and Gowdy, they were stonewalled at every turn during their "investigation Hearing" from the Obama Administration. If Obama had been transparent as he wanted us to believe, he would have turned over the information about the scandals that happened under his administration.

    The same holds true for Trump, if he is asked to supply information then he should provide it.

    If everything was above board during the Obama Administration, then I am pretty sure there would have been several convictions for violating the Law.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:58 p.m.

    and once again we see what Obama did Trump un-did. Thank heaven once again!!!

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:46 p.m.

    @worf

    These lands do not belong to the citizens of Utah. Basic property rights show that. Locals really have no more say than any other citizen of this country.

    If utah feels it has a right to ownership of these lands I suggest they take it up with the Supreme Court.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:09 p.m.

    It is now up to our Utah Congressional Delegation to get the repeal of the Antiquities Act going. It has been misused too many times.

  • WarmPost slc, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:07 p.m.

    Thank you President Trump!
    Many here support you and the great work you are doing!
    Happy!

  • Slushfund Lost in Northeastern Utarh, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:05 p.m.

    "Yellowstonefan - Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:44 p.m.

    I think this is a huge mistake. This will be tied up in litigation for years to come. I am on the side of The Native Americans."

    WHICH NATIVE AMERICANS??....You have tribal people on both sides of the fence with this issue.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Dec. 4, 2017 3:03 p.m.

    @eastcoastcoug--Where does your evidence come from? CNN?

    This land belongs to the people of Utah and not to those who can't manage our taxes.

    Thank you Mr Trump for your common sense and honesty.

  • Yellowstonefan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:44 p.m.

    I think this is a huge mistake. This will be tied up in litigation for years to come. I am on the side of The Native Americans.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:42 p.m.

    "Public lands will once again be for public use"
    ____________________
    That statement is anything but an honest if lands in question end up under private ownership which I would bet some of them likely will. The way in which politicians do some sinister deeds with the clever use of words just makes me sick.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:35 p.m.

    Lia: "Pushy republican, forces his agenda on everyone."

    I am quite sure the irony of Trump being here to undo the actions of the last (pushy Democrat) presidents who forced their agenda on everyone by declaring these lands with that special designation to appease their radical environmentalist supporters; is completely lost on you.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:34 p.m.

    82% of Americans felt America was on the wrong track....in 2015.

    That, my friends, is not Trump's fault because, you see, he was elected in 2016.

    Obama's no-show effort on restoring American jobs in the rust belt (Obama preferred handouts to jobs), enforcing immigration laws (he actually put his hand on a bible and swore to enforce the laws of the land and then did the opposite on immigration laws), passing Obamacare without the consent of the American people (he promised no hikes in premiums when in fact premiums are up 65% since passing the Bill), wrote more executive orders than any American President ever (combined) and missing a huge opportunity to soothe racial tensions (in fact he stoked them with anti-police rhetoric)....this, my friends, is why Donald Trump is President.

    And I love it....

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:21 p.m.

    LOVE IT! Welcome President Trump and thanks for coming.

    Man, it's great having a fiercely proud American in office.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:18 p.m.

    @JoeCapitalist

    “I am sure that for every Trump 'fan' there will be a dozen leftist protesters who will shout obscenities at him every chance they get. Since these people seem to have nothing better to do....”

    I know. We who have earned Bachelor, Master, and Ph. D drgrees .....well, because we had so much time on our hands, I guess. Of course I don’t speak for the whole group, but you will be hard pressed to find supporters as education increases.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:18 p.m.

    @JoeCapitalist

    “I am sure that for every Trump 'fan' there will be a dozen leftist protesters who will shout obscenities at him every chance they get. Since these people seem to have nothing better to do....”

    I know. We who have earned Bachelor, Master, and Ph. D drgrees .....well, because we had so much time on our hands, I guess. Of course I don’t speak for the whole group, but you will be hard pressed to find supporters as education increases.

  • Marigold Provo, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:17 p.m.

    President Trump is the President of the United States. Let's show some respect. Every man who has held that high office of the U.S. President has come to it bearing personal baggage. Remember, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone..." Let's get over ourselves and pull together for the good of the country. If you don't like the fact that Trump is Trump then find a "perfect" candidate for 2020. We have a current President who pushes his own shopping cart at Welfare Square and even bothers to visit that jewel of a place which is basically run by volunteers, encourages self-sufficiency, and helps those needing a hand up. The undoing of the massive government land grab by the previous administration can be undone by the next. But let's hope the voice of a majority of the citizens of this great state still carries...President Trump was acting on that majority voice.

  • BigLib Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:12 p.m.

    Christmas came early to Utah this year. Hallelujah! Trump is returning power to the people.

  • p e RICHFIELD, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:10 p.m.

    I applaud this president and use my keyboard in support of his actions and policies. They are so much better than those of the last administration, in my opinion. The left keeps trying to put him down and say he has no support but the silent majority has spoken and is united behind him in defense of individual liberty and justice for all.
    Bears Ears and Grand Staircase have been reduced much closer to reasonable sizes. The remaining million plus acres in them is still too much for a state where 70% of the land is already owned by the fed but I accept this as all we can get for now.
    How sad that those who are on the other side will go to court against any compromise with their own desires and will always resort to personal attacks and allegations which cannot be proven in a court of law.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:07 p.m.

    ute alumni -
    Libs

    "Trump won you lost. Get over it. As your hero, Barry so eloquently said, elections have consequences. You only have seven more years. The sound of whining is nice on a winter morn".

    Enabling, non college educated, extremists. If Clinton won the Electoral College and lost the popular vote by 3 million unfortunately you all would be marching down State Street with loaded AR-15s! {*Oregon "standoff" debacle} Trump won nothing while the American people lost everything! Furthermore..."Get over" the continued Clinton/Obama deflection. Current approval rating of the Tweeter and Chief are between 33%-37% and declining hourly! The continued screaming of "fake news" will not change the factual information involved regardless of the daily, frivolous attempts. In conclusion. "Remember" the mocking of the disabled. "Remember" the open mic bragging of sexual assault. "Remember" the ongoing bigotry. "Remember" the constant misogyny. "Remember" the attacks on Trump's cabinet members. "Remember" Puerto Rico. Most important. "Remember" the need to seek out legitimate sources of news! Country before party comrade. Thank you, keep digging and Happy Holidays!

  • eigerjoe Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:04 p.m.

    I am so please today with President Trump's Executive Order scaling back Clinton and Obama's over-reach of The Antiquities Act in Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Excalante Monuments! Today was another small, but great victory for Populism and a blow to Elitism.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 2:00 p.m.

    Confused I can see why your confused

    Confused: "I agree, now if only the supporters of Obama and Hillary Clinton would have allowed an honest "investigation" into the issues they were involved in (IRS, Secret Service, Benghazi, etc.)"

    Honest they were, because the likes of Chaffetz and Goudy were doing their job, which was to have as many hearings, and investigations as possible to give the appearance of wrong doing, it worked because a certain segment of society believes as you.

    Confused: "We have not had a "decent" president since Reagan/Bush I... too much cronyism, to much back room dealing and above all too much lying to the American people."

    Reagan/Bush, you mean the most convictions and corrupt Admin on record? No wonder you like Trump, he's gunna give Reagan's criminal administration a run for their money.

  • What Matters Here Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:59 p.m.

    I find that most of my Friends and Family that supported the designation of these federal lands as National Monuments, along with the associated protections or restrictions that came with it, are from Urban areas who rarely or never visit them, while my Friends and Family that are glad to see that decision reversed, are from rural areas and they visit and use the land regularly.

    It's also been my experience that those who use it, respect, understand, and manage the land way better than those who don't.

    Maybe what we're really talking about here is a philosophy, not the land, maybe that's the real problem. It's easy to agree with a philosophy that doesn't affect you, go talk to people who are affected by that philosophy (any philosophy) and see what they think.

    This is all that's happened here, and this time, the folks affected most, got a voice, a place at the table! (Yes, this includes most of the Native People I know who live near these public lands.)

  • nancybLV Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:49 p.m.

    I probably won't be approved for this comment but I am surprised by how many negative comments from people about liberals....I am not a liberal but surprised some are getting away with it. I get told many times I have not been approved due to my content and basically may cause negative responses....Really !!!!!!! I am glad Trump did this the federal gov't already owns to much Utah land......

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:43 p.m.

    Public use, my eye-
    "Public lands will now be sold to the highest bidding developer!"

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:41 p.m.

    In all my 71 years I don't remember a darker day in the history of this state. Today Utah culture, the Utah Republican Party, and Trumpism became all one and the same.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:36 p.m.

    Well this seems like the definition of compromise. The environmentalist groups get MORE monuments albeit smaller total geography, while Utahns get back some land as BLM designation which allows broader use.

    Now the left will do what they always do when they don't get everything one hundred percent the way the want it - they'll go judge shopping in the courts. But I think Congress will head that off with a modification/clarification to the antiquities act.

    Donald Trump certainly gets a lot of credit for stepping in to mediate a fight he could have completely ignored. Politically, there is next to nothing to be gain by getting in the middle of this; especially not in your first term.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:34 p.m.

    This man is a disgrace to the presidency, and I'm ashamed of Utah for helping to elect him to public office.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:31 p.m.

    @realDonaldTrump is our Groper and Abuser-in-Chief. He's done to our lands what he did to those 15 women.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:29 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CA

    "Personally, I consider an "awesome president" to be one who's NOT being investigated by the FBI and Department of Justice for treason."

    I agree, now if only the supporters of Obama and Hillary Clinton would have allowed an honest "investigation" into the issues they were involved in (IRS, Secret Service, Benghazi, etc.)

    We have not had a "decent" president since Reagan/Bush I... too much cronyism, to much back room dealing and above all too much lying to the American people.

    Both parties are guilty, but the avid supporters of each party, will never admit it.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:23 p.m.

    Ya gotta love it, "going to prison," "shrink Native land" ( the entire continent was at one time Native land, but that gets lost in their emotion), "crowd of syncopates," "don't let him land." The libs just get more irrational every day. I don't know what I like more; a President following the rule of law, or libs having a complete and utter melt down.

  • Neil Man Weogufka, AL
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:22 p.m.

    I wonder how many people actually read past the news blurbs intended to incite righteous indignation ? Much of what is put out is to grab attention problem is: few read the entire story before raising up in hysterics

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:18 p.m.

    Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. What a contrast between the Gipper’s iconic congenial smile and DT’s withering stone-faced scowl from which we recoil. And that’s only where the differences between them begin.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:14 p.m.

    We needed President Trump 9 years ago, thankfully we have him for the next 7 years!

  • hobblecreek CA, 00
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:11 p.m.

    @patriot

    Your expressions towards the past President are in lock step with how many staunch Republican friends of mine feel about the current President. They are so ashamed they bury their heads and can't even speak his name. Many great serving and patriotic Americans who recognize his penchant for lies and moral depravation through his words and deeds view this man in a very different light.

  • PRSomega Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:06 p.m.

    After viewing the posts, it becomes abundantly clear that the radical liberals are all out in force. I guess they have nothing better to do. I submit that most conservatives are hard at work (I am retired) and don't have time to comment. Suggestion to the radical liberals...get a job!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 4, 2017 1:03 p.m.

    @patriot

    "Awesome president --- awesome man"

    Apparently you and I have different criteria for both.

    Personally, I consider an "awesome president" to be one who's NOT being investigated by the FBI and Department of Justice for treason.
    Personally, I consider an "awesome man" to be one who HASN'T sexually assaulted multiple women and bragged about it.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:53 p.m.

    The Deseret News all out coverage for this visit is over the top, to say the least.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:51 p.m.

    "It is true everyone now is threatening to sue, and one judge making a silly decision could unravel almost everything one way or the other," Bishop said on "The Doug Wright Show."
    A silly decision? You mean following the laws established by Congress and not your wishes? I would not worry about the next President rescinding Trump's decision today. The courts will do that long before then.

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:45 p.m.

    "Patriot," I am a Libertarian and think that Trump is way too totalitarian for my liking. He engages in behaviors that, as a long time history buff, I find profoundly disturbing. I am not a fan of either party, but I can't join you in singing the president's praises so please do not claim that Libertarians love him or think of him as "the best president since Reagan." Speaking for myself, I do not.

  • Ronnie W. Layton, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:44 p.m.

    @patriot - Cedar Hills, UT

    "Awesome man?" Please. A man who has admitted to using his stardom to allow him to take advantage is not an awesome man. You can say you like his policies, but don't act like he someone you would want your son to be like.

    He is our president-but that does not make him a good man.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:29 p.m.

    It's too bad trump figured he needed to come out here just to make this announcement. Seems like a bit of overkill.
    I'm glad to see there are opposing voices dogging him; that really should be the case pretty much wherever he goes, even his goon squad rallies. This president doesn't draw so much more negative attention than his predecessors because of spite; he's worthy of it. His lies, contempt and disdain for people, and low intelligence approach to everything are unprecedented and far below what's expected of the occupant of the office.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:28 p.m.

    Awesome president --- awesome man. An honor to have President Trump in Utah among a majority conservative state. It's been over a decade since I have felt the desire to actually stand in line to shake the presidents hand. I couldn't even speak the prior presidents name ...and still won't. What a disgrace to American he was. Trump is a breath of fresh air -- he thinks like we do and he isn't afraid to speak it. He isn't a lying polititian like the rest. The best president since Reagan.. at least for those who are conservative or Libertarian and even many blue dog democrats. For the far left and establishment DC folks they hate him...as they hated Reagan. So happy to see Trump undo all the land grabing of Clinton and Obama in the state of Utah. The land is now being returned to the people thankfully. Bears Ears and Grandstaircase aren't even close to national monument status. These south eastern Utah plots of land have native american heritage as does nearly ever country in the state. Obama and Clinton tried to lock this land up so energy couldn't be developed.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:25 p.m.

    Libs,

    Trump won you lost. Get over it. As your hero, Barry so eloquently said, elections have consequences. You only have seven more years. The sound of whining is nice on a winter morn.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:17 p.m.

    I bet Trump made a deal with Hatch that he would reduce the size of these monuments if Hatch would run again. Trump doesn't want Romney in the senate.

    @joecap

    Trump isn't being treated any worse than Obama. That is a fallacy of trump supporters.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:10 p.m.

    @LivinLarge;
    "Thank you Mr. President...you are making America great again one day at a time!"

    Really? He's getting closer to going to prison-one day at a time.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:01 p.m.

    Thank you Mr. President...you are making America great again one day at a time!

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 12:00 p.m.

    His departure from Utah can't come fast enough for me. I don't understand the adoration this man inspires. Even when I vote for someone, I am still capable of criticism when justified and rational thought that can says no one is perfect. And maybe that is still the case here. Maybe it's anger so intense that people don't care about his disgusting behavior and crass and low language he uses. Scary.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:48 a.m.

    Only 34% of Americans approve of Trump. But, 60% of Uthan's do. What a disconnect.
    Sad.

  • marileecr Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:42 a.m.

    The greed of this president and those that support him is the worst Christmas joke ever. Shrink native land, construct the tax code to benefit the wealthy, and degrade women. I'm LDS and I'm appalled that those who claim to be Christian can support him.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:32 a.m.

    @JoeCapitalist2

    "I am sure that for every Trump 'fan' there will be a dozen leftist protesters who will shout obscenities at him every chance they get."

    I certainly hope so - he deserves no less. And hopefully some "rightist" protesters join in, since he does nothing to merit their praise either.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:20 a.m.

    Wake me up when Republicans can do anything beyond undermine Obama's legacy. I've set the alarm clock for 2037.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:15 a.m.

    Pushy republican, forces his agenda on everyone.
    Utah is perfect for him.
    He'll feel right at home.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 11:13 a.m.

    JLindow: "I expect Trump will be greeted by a crowd of sycophants and adoring fans."

    I am sure that for every Trump 'fan' there will be a dozen leftist protesters who will shout obscenities at him every chance they get. Since these people seem to have nothing better to do, they will try to give the impression that their far-left views are much more popular than they really are.

    For every bit of valid criticism expressed against Trump here and elsewhere, there are 10 vitriolic posts upon there is nearly zero basis in truth. I am not a big Trump fan, but I am amazed at the level of hatred against him and the outright dishonesty used by his enemies.

    I never liked Obama, but I wouldn't dream of doing the kinds of things against him that the left does every day with Trump.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:41 a.m.

    Don't let him land!

  • JLindow St George, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    I expect Trump will be greeted by a crowd of sycophants and adoring fans.

    He'll get the ego boost he needs, and Trump supporters will see the ratio of Red Hats to protesters in the carefully screened crowd as evidence that Utah overwhelmingly backs Trump.