Bannon: Romney 'hid' behind religion in not enlisting

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  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Dec. 8, 2017 7:49 p.m.

    Obviously, Steve Bannon doesn't know everything. He demonstrated extreme ignorance in this instance.

    God bless America. Happy to see we are making America great again!

    😁

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:20 p.m.

    Ironic given Mr. Romney was nearly commander in chief, and would have been expert at funding at army, navy and air force. And yes, Mr. Romney was the better choice in 2008, than John McCain again that one knows how to fund things and oversee payroll, whereas the other does not. (Mr. McCain lost 100 million dollars in the 2008 primaries and his campaign went broke). All thru the 1950's, especially during the Korean war, one was drafted and that took precedence over missions, and in the early 1950's, there were very very few missionaries. Let us compare Bannon's many marriages with his trying to appeal to evangelicals. Irony all around. Mr. Romney is not perfect, and yet people try so hard to find flaws in a one marriage man.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 6:56 p.m.

    @nonamesaccepted

    Republicans put activist judges on the bench. Don’t pretend republicans are some how constitutional purists.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, WA
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:36 p.m.

    You can't go after Steve Bannon about his Mormon comments,
    whilst cheering him and Trump for saying the same sorts of things about Muslims....

    Donald Trump and Steve Bannon and Roy Moore SHOULD be the wake up call to Republican Mormons...

    Time to take a stand....

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:22 p.m.

    Roy Moore, 70, is facing multiple allegations of sexual misconduct, including accusations that he molested two teenage girls and pursued romantic relationships with several others while in his 30s.

    Mitt went on a mission and went to work.

    Tell me again why the alt-right hate Mitt?

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:50 p.m.

    Bannon and his ilk are trying to control the political power in the US. They represent a disgusting, bigotted, amoral, violent brand that must be rejected in the next election.

    Generally, Utahns should vote opposite of anyone Bannon and Trump support. This means Hatch. Orin has been in the Senate for 42 years. It is time for him to give up his seat. Additionally, I am very concerned with the alignment Hatch has with Trump, and I am concerned with Bannon's support of Hatch.

    Anyone Bannon supports should be voted against. This is the only way voters can send a message that we do not want the sleezy, abusive, biggotted version of politics that Bannon and Trump represent.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:25 p.m.

    Adapting Martin NiemÖller to 2017:

    ===
    First he targeted the Mexicans, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Mexican.

    Then he targeted the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Muslims.

    Then he targeted the African Americans, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not an African American.

    Then he targeted the Mormons...
    ===

    How do folks want this story to end this time?

  • james d. morrison Sandy, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 12:55 p.m.

    Romney didn't hide behind the mission to avoid going to Vietnam. He still would have gone on the mission even if there was no war. He didn't do it to avoid the war. And he hadn't been drafted and there is a chance he wouldn't have ever been drafted. So, should he have put off everything to wait to see if he was drafted. That would mean that no one in the country should have been going to college so they wouldn't have their deferments.
    Going on a mission isn't hiding from service. My dad served a mission and then still got drafted and served 11 months in Vietnam.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 12:44 p.m.

    Bannon is a man with such a "moral" compass that we should listen to him? Please.

  • sman columbia, MS
    Dec. 6, 2017 12:36 p.m.

    Another thing that is not mentioned about Judge Moore's case is Alabama's legal age of consent is 16. Alabama needs to change that. Even if true most of the allegations against Moore would have been legal. I live in Mississippi ,alot of kids run to Alabama to get married, that would be under age here.

  • UncleArtie Brigham City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 12:11 p.m.

    One point that is missing from all of these comments is the lottery. Evidently, most people who have commented are too young to remember it.

    I am three weeks younger than Mitt, and I was in the second lottery. Each year, birthdays were selected and sequenced. My birthday, April 3, was 83rd. Guys whose birthdays were within the first 150 or so were targeted for the draft. So, we need to know where Mitt's birthday fell on the list; if it was above the cutoff, then he would not have been drafted.

    The fact that Mitt was on a mission did not get him out of the draft, it just delayed it. Graduate school may have also gotten him a deferment; I do not remember the rules. I had a student deferment while I was going to college as an undergraduate; but when I graduated in 1969 , my draft status changed.

  • TheJester American Fork, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 12:10 p.m.

    @joe5

    Where are you getting your information?

    "what appears to be a forged yearbook"?
    "lies that are not supported in court documents nor the timeline of when the accusers claim they occurred" et al...

    Are they lies because Roy Moore says they are?

    "Moore's situation is different than Conyers, Franken, Weinstein, Spacey, Lauer, and all the others who have also been recently accused. In each of those cases, there is a smoking gun (or several) that leaves no doubt about their guilt."

    In each of the cases you mention (with the exception of Franken, whose photos could easily be construed to be humorous and not nefarious and who actually has an accuser with a political axe to grind) the evidence is the testimony of the victims. Exactly the same standard of evidence being used to judge Mr. Moore.

    Also, I was around 40 years ago. It was NOT common practice for 30 year old men to date 15 year old girls.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Dec. 6, 2017 11:59 a.m.

    "Romney 'hid' behind religion in not enlisting?"

    Well . . . Is Bannon right?

    Did Romney hide behind his religion to avoid military service?

    Gary Herbert rails against Bannon, but he doesn't really deny that assertion, does he?

    And neither do the posters here.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:48 a.m.

    Bannon enjoys the same rights to free speech as do the writers of the Book of Mormon Musical. That both choose to use their freedoms in offensive ways to demean others is an unfortunate cost of freedom. Fortunately, Bannon isn't running for office.

    Many of those jumping to condemn Bannon and try to rile up LDS against him and any politician he supports are among the staunchest defenders and patrons of material that mocks and attacks Mormons including the aforementioned musical, Saturday's Voyeur, etc. These people dislike LDS and Romney every bit as much or more than does Bannon. Bannon plays to an anti-LDS southern audience. Many in Utah who attack Bannon are very anti-LDS themselves. I don't intend to let either group goad me into anything for their own political purposes.

    Had those who now feign defense of Romney actually voted for him, and had the religious right that so disliked Obama voted for Romney, we would never have had Trump or Bannon in political power. We would have also been spared a 2nd Obama term.

    So all sides should spare us the attempts to politicize how anyone feels about LDS.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:45 a.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon: "You are either a Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Roy Moore, and Orrin Hatch Republican
    or
    You are Mitt Romney, Jeff Flake Republican."

    False dichotomy that many of us reject. Simpletons see the world in black and white.

    "Sitting in my LDS High Priest Group..."

    Why is it that the liberals who scream the loudest about mixing of politics and religion, and claiming that conservatives unjustly make liberals feel like they don't belong in church, so often turn around and are the most overt about wearing their religion on their sleeves and claiming it is the conservative members of the congregation who are getting sideways with the Lord or with gospel principles?

    Hypocrisy is a strong word, but I can find none other to describe what I see here.

    Trump came in 3rd in the 2-way Utah GOP primary. Very few of us like Trump personally. But you Democrats nominated the one person whose personality and policies were both far worse.

    A lot of us do like some of Trump's key policies including Gorsuch and other originalists on the courts, recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and working to enforce immigration law. Ds should give me a better option next time.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:39 a.m.

    Like many Mormons at the time including myself, Romney should have served in the military and completed a mission too. A lot of us did. In fact, during the Vietnam War the Church put a cap on the number of missionaries called except those who completed or were doing military service. So Mitt did hide behind the Church to avoid military service. And his five sons? No military service? Pathetic!

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:07 a.m.

    The fact is, the next Senator from Alabama will either be a pro-abortion Democrat who supports socialized medicine and will demand activist judges on the federal courts, or a political and social conservative who will support originalists on the court, but who has some very disturbing allegations of sexual assault against him.

    Those are the choices folks.

    The Democrats demand pro-abortion, want government controlled medical care, delight in judicial activism, and will be voting for the Democrat.

    The Republicans oppose sexual assault, but do not yet have enough credible information to know whether the allegations are true. There are enough contradictions and obvious political motivations in both the allegations themselves and in the timing of their release as to raise very reasonable doubts in most honest people's minds.

    Were I a voter in Alabama, I'd vote for Moore (or at least against the Democrat) and then let investigations play out. If they fizzle, my vote is vindicated. If they become more credible, I can demand Moore's resignation, or even expulsion or prosecution. At very least I vote differently in the GOP primary in 6 years. But no partisan advantage to the left.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:06 a.m.

    @joe5;
    "Impartial: Do you even know what those two incidents were about?"
    "He fought what was, to some of us, a huge over-reach of the federal judiciary (Obama appointees trying to remove the historical legacy of not only the United States itself but the foundation of our legal system). "

    Joe, I have a total understanding of the incidents. Do you understand the timeline? Moore's issue with the 10 commandments happened in 2003. That was George Bush Jr. Obama wasn't President until 2008. Those were GOP Bush appointees. He also had a similar issue in 1990 when George H.W. Bush was President.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:54 a.m.

    last post - I'll give it to byufottoballrocks

    Mitt Romney should know better. In 2012, who can forget Harry Reid's admission that he had lied and justification that "He didn't get elected, did he?" He led the campaign of falsely accusing Romney and, at least in his own mind, it played a role in keeping Romney from the oval office.

    While this discussion is about Bannon (who has never had to retract anything for being false), we should remember that lying is standard procedure for Democrats.

    Clinton: "I never had sex with that woman."

    Obama: "You will still be able to choose your own doctor."

    Clinton: "There was nothing classified in my personal emails."

    The list is literally endless. And yet there is a contingent in our nation that continues to lap up every word as if it was gospel. Personally, I don't get it. When you've been misled and deliberately deceived hundreds of times, isn't there some point when you start to have a doubt or two?

    I like Romney and voted for him twice. But I won't do that again. A man who jumps on flimsy accusations for political expediency is no more moral than the next politician. Nothing distinguishes him from the crowd any more.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:49 a.m.

    @RedSmith et al,

    Bannon has a point which is completely off topic. Let's find something despicable in those who show moral courage in questioning a known Child Molester and hit that. HARD.

    So, go ahead and play the 'What about' game and side with those who put Party over Principle. Side with those who attack OUR Mormon DNA and beliefs. Who think Missionary Service isn't anything special (we're part of a cult after all).

    I just can't believe we're even having this discussion...

  • PorLibertad Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:42 a.m.

    This whole Roy Moore thing is an enigma. His reported indiscretions occurred like 40 years ago. Since that time he apparently has live a very conservative and religious life style. His wife appears to stand by him completely.

    Not sure what to make of all this but those who allege stuff happened 40 years ago raise some questions as to why they are just now bringing this so publically?

    Let the voters in Alabama decide - I will defer to their judgement.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:35 a.m.

    Fabled: Bad example. Two completely different eras. Not comparable.

    Anti-Trump:

    If Obama had the economic indicators that Trump has, he would be nominated for a Nobel Prize in economics.

    Bannon's media outlet is never forced to retract anything they print (nobody can disprove it) while just about every liberal media outlet routinely has to retract and print corrections. Frankly, I prefer that track record of truth-telling.

    Nobody has proven anything against Moore despite using forged yearbooks, accusers who have a history of fraud and whose stories have unraveled under scrutiny. Twice suspended from the bench for supporting the 10 commandments and traditional marriage (sounds pretty Mormon to me).

    Your joke about not being able to be Mormon and Republican at the same time is truly laughable. It is far more accurate to say you cannot be Mormon and Democrat at the same time when you consider abortion, same-sex marriage, religious freedom, the dole, the hugely disproportionate victimization of women, corruption in the DNC, Clinton campaign, and Mueller investigation, and the removal of God from their party platform.

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:32 a.m.

    This is the new party before country GOP and it reeks. Willing to elect a guy who was twice removed from being a judge because he refused to follow the constitution. A guy who was known to 'court' teenagers while in his 30s, a fact he doesnt even dispute.

    But hey, tax cuts for billionaires, right? That is sure to fix everything and those manufacturing jobs that CEOs moved to China because people will work for a couple bucks a day are going to come streaming back any day now...

    any day now...

    MAGA! Once all the wealth in the country is concentrated into just a few families we will finally be 'great again'. I mean it worked in the 1920s, right? What could go wrong?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:32 a.m.

    @Red Smith
    "The Alabama choice is - Does one support a Democrat and abortion or support a Republican with 40 year old harassment cloud?"
    Put another way, does one support a Democrat whose family has never had an abortion and believes this is a personal decision, not the governments. Or does one support a man who has multiple accusers, supported with collaborating testimony, saying he preyed and groped underage girls. A man who has been removed from office, twice, for violating his office and the constitution of the United States?

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, WA
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:31 a.m.

    This is the great sifting....

    You are either a Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Roy Moore, and Orrin Hatch Republican --
    or
    You are Mitt Romney, Jeff Flake Republican.

    Sitting in my LDS High Priest Group,
    I see the sifting,
    I can clearly see who is putting their Party ahead of their Principles.

    ...and Sen. Jeff Flake's check to Doug Jones yesterday nailed it.

  • byufootballrocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:27 a.m.

    Steve Bannion should not have brought Mitt Romney's religion into this.

    And Romney is wrong in condemning Judge Moore through Twitter without the benefit of real facts.

    Romney doesn't know squat, other than that accusations have been brought forward, and it's despicable for him to imply that those who doubt the allegations are somehow lacking in integrity or common sense or are putting politics first. It's now been revealed through the press that many of the Moore accusations are full of holes.

    That's partly why Judge Moore is back in the lead in the polls, as Alabamians don't like the Washington Post and media and political elites telling them who and what they should believe.

    Mitt Romney has said it's a different set of rules if you're running. Unlike a court, if you are accused you're done. Under Romney's logic, what's going to happen in the future when false allegations are brought forward, as happened in the sad case of a Maryland High School teacher a few years ago? The person gets destroyed and only later is it revealed that they were innocent.

    That's why Bannion got so upset. But again it was wrong in my view for him to attack the Romney family or his faith.

  • Fabled Soul Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:21 a.m.

    Bannon is correct. Romney could have chosen to serve in the military rather than serve a mission. A number of LDS general authorities did so including President Monson.

  • Anti-Trump Everett, WA
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:21 a.m.

    Donald Trump, Steve Bannon and Roy Moore ARE the Republican Party!
    Republicans need to step up and OWN them for who they are!

    They are YOURS, not mine!
    I'll have nothing to do with this evil 'new' Republican Party!

    Mormon Republicans are now caught in quite the dilemma.
    You are either a Mormon or a Republican.
    but your moral compass can't let you be both any longer.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:20 a.m.

    Wow,

    How does a member of the LDS church which I am, support the party who continues to belittle the religion I choose to belong to while claiming that Christians are under assault but choose not to stand up for my Christian religion. Interesting that two members stand up for what they believe to be right and are under attack from Mr. Bannon ie. Trump's attack dog and the new voice of the Republican party. Interesting that our Utah contingent, all of them members of the LDS Church cower in the corner waiting for Mr. Trump to tell them what to do next.

    I didn't vote for Mitt Romney but if he continues to show a willingness to take principled stands I would certainly vote for him over Mr. Trump's best friend Orrin Hatch. I also respect Mr. Flake for standing up on the senate floor and taking a stand again, while the good legislators from our great state sit nervously waiting to be told what to do next.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:20 a.m.

    Impartial: Do you even know what those two incidents were about?

    One was because he refused to remove a ten commandments monument from the lobby of the Alabama Judicial Building. He fought what was, to some of us, a huge over-reach of the federal judiciary (Obama appointees trying to remove the historical legacy of not only the United States itself but the foundation of our legal system). Many would be pleased that someone had the courage to risk everything, including his own career, to fight against the secularism that is invading our nation. Instead of being maligned, many would regard his actions as heroic.

    The other was because he continued to enforce the state's ban on same-sex marriage despite the fact that the ban was declared unconstitutional. Again, many would view this as heroic.

    In short, his suspensions were matter of conscience, not matters of capability or judicial malfeasance.

    I find it ironic that you, along with others who routinely air these suspensions, do not provide the full context so people can decide if he is hero or villain. In many way, his actions could be viewed as similar to our founding fathers.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:16 a.m.

    @Light and Liberty "Obama coyly sucked most of the Democrats and a host of Republicans into a full vamp of Socialism (No Democrat wants to admit the evils of Socialism. ..."

    I am a socialist. I belong to the Socialist Party - USA. So I guess you think I am a tool of Satan. I deny this.

    First, Democrats are not socialists. They have done some great things but they are the #2 capitalist party.

    Second, socialism and capitalism are a binary pair. One is always an alternative of the other. This has been the story the last 300 years.

    Socialism is not "evil" But it has its problems, as does capitalism. In fact socialism often works very well. There are today no purely capitalist or purely socialist countries. There has been a confluence of systems as predicted ably by the late economist John Kenneth Galbraith.

    One thing is critical, there needs to be an appreciation for Karl Marx in economics. Both socialists and capitalists need to know him even if he does not change their minds.

    Of course I am wasting my breath here.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    @joe5;
    " I have yet to see a smoking gun for Moore"

    How about the fact the he was removed from the bench-twice, for breaking the law?

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    I wouldn't hold draft avoidance against Romney... but him doing so while he supported the war is hypocritical.

  • taatmk Brigham City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:02 a.m.

    If you want to talk about "honor" and "integrity" does not Mr Bannon get PAID to say the things he says? There is also a concept of selling your soul for filthy lucre that he does not bring up....and one might also place what position in the Trump empire is Mr Bannon gunning for as well...

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:54 a.m.

    Yeah - Steve Bannon is quite the war hero.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:42 a.m.

    This is one independent that knew Bannon was out for blood. I also would have voted for Trump over Romney. I also believe Romney has more character than Trump. Obama coyly sucked most of the Democrats and a host of Republicans into a full vamp of Socialism (No Democrat wants to admit the evils of Socialism. I am not sure they think evil exists, except when someone mentions the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, or work ethic). So, here we are. The Republican party does not represent me, never has, nor ever will. The last Republican I wholeheartedly voted for was Ronald Reagan, the greatest president of the 20th century. John F. Kennedy, a moral reprobate, actually was the best Democratic president of the 20th century. Both, ironically, didn't espouse the party line on many issues. Which means, there is an American center that actually believes in liberty, listens intently for those who believe in liberty, and will even vote for the lesser of two evils to steer the ship of state away from the two political parties destroying America. The center will hold to fight Socialism (Democrats) and Fascism (Republican), against the tide of Bannon or Obama!

  • geekusprimus Little Elm, TX
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    I tire of the moral superiority of those who claim their military service makes them better than another. I know many who have served, and I respect their sacrifice, but I know a lot of people who go into the military because it's a steady job, not because they have more dedication to their country than the guy who didn't enlist.

  • TripleB1111 Milford, NH
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:29 a.m.

    I can't think of any group or population with more "honor and integrity" than LDS missionaries!

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:24 a.m.

    Steve Bannon went to war.

    Mit and his 5 sons did not.

    Steve Bannon has a point.

    It's one thing to talk about things and another thing to put your life on the line.

    However, claiming moral superiority is no excuse to trash folks.

    The Alabama choice is - Does one support a Democrat and abortion or support a Republican with 40 year old harassment cloud?

    There are no good choices, only a better choice.

  • drich Green River, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    Sorry, Mr. Bannon didn't say that about Bill Clinton and Muhammad Ali ( Cassius Clay).

  • DSattheU Ogden, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:17 a.m.

    The forefathers of this country sought to create a "marketplace of ideas" where truth would win out after civil dialogue. We are about as far from that great ideal as possible. We have Bannon, Trump and others who rant, name call and slander. What are we becoming?

    I used to lean to the right more often than not politically. The last election is the first time I didn't vote for either major party as I could not do so in good conscience. I fear it will not be the last time the choices in an election are: Bad and Worse.

    Time to study the founding fathers of this nation and get back to what truly made America great.

  • drich Green River, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:13 a.m.

    I didn't hear that from Moore about Bill Clinton or Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay).

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:08 a.m.

    To all Mormons, the Trump wing of the GOP does not like you. They will pull anything out of the air to attack people if they feel like it. Trump hid behind fake bone spurs that miraculously healed whenever it was convenient. Hatch didn't serve, but tries to claim his service by feeling bad about the death of his brother in WWII. If Romney didn't serve in the military, yet speaks out against people like Trump and Roy Moore, while Hatch, Trump and Bannon support people unsuited for high office, I'll take Romney every time. Romney at least shows a moral backbone.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:58 a.m.

    The #1 cited opposition to Moore is the accusations against him. Accusations that include what appears to be a forged yearbook, lies that are not supported in court documents nor the timeline of when the accusers claim they occurred, lies from a cop who admitted she was basing everything on her dislike for Moore, lies that were refuted by a mall owner and other eyewitnesses to the account, lies that were refuted by the accusers' own family members, and some behaviors that appear weird in 2017 but were culturally common 40 years ago.

    I have a hard time understanding why people keep believing these are credible accounts?

    Or does this really come just come down to nothing more than not liking his politics so people are anxious to try to ruin his life just to keep him out of office. Where is the morality in that? Where is the honor?

    Moore's situation is different than Conyers, Franken, Weinstein, Spacey, Lauer, and all the others who have also been recently accused. In each of those cases, there is a smoking gun (or several) that leaves no doubt about their guilt. I have yet to see a smoking gun for Moore.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:54 a.m.

    " , , , , He noted that Moore graduated from the United States Military Academy, while Romney received a draft deferment for his missionary work in France. "You hid behind your religion," Bannon said. 'Do not talk to me about honor and integrity."
    ____________________
    What about Trump, Mr. Bannon? He didn't enlist during Vietnam either, now did he?

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:54 a.m.

    Romney never got my vote but character-wise he walks on water compared to Bannon and Trump. When it is all said and done, the religious right will have a lot of soul-searching to do. That doesn't mean they will do it.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:54 a.m.

    I, too, would not vote for Mitt Romney. That said, he is a civil and respectable person who seems to be one of the last reasonable voices in his party. He recognises the toxicity of the Bannon faction, and the damage it is doing.
    He also recognises the need to place country over party, and to avoid the likes of Moore at all costs.
    As for Bannon, if he wants to throw rocks, Mitt Romney is not President. Find out if the guy who is served in Vietnam.

  • RC in WJ WEST JORDAN, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:46 a.m.

    Bannon states:

    "You hid behind your religion," Bannon said. 'Do not talk to me about honor and integrity."

    Speaking of "honor and integrity" and service to our country, how about your hero "Commander in bone spurs"

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:40 a.m.

    What Bannon says is to a large degree what Trump thinks. They're ideological soulmates.

    I hope all those Utahns who rejoiced at Trump's gift to Utah on Monday with slashing the Bears Ears and GSE monuments remember that Trump is far closer to Bannon in his world view than he is to Orrin Hatch, or anyone else in Utah.

    Slashing the monuments was a simple transactional event. The expectation is unquestioned loyalty.

    Utahns need to choose - do you bow down to Trump, or do you stand up for your integrity, your heritage, (for LDS) your fellow Mormon.

    Or, do you just pretend what was said in Alabama yesterday didn't happen, or you didn't hear about it?

  • Jeremy234 SLC, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:31 a.m.

    "If I'm in a foxhole, I don't want to know whether this guy next to me is wondering if he's a woman or a man." What a crazy thing to say...

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Dec. 6, 2017 6:58 a.m.

    I didn’t vote for Mr. Romney. I’m a big D Democrat who doesn’t like religion and isn’t exactly crazy about rich people in America. That said, Mr. Romney is a man who cares about this country and who has the intelligence to serve it. He is a good, decent man. Steve Bannen is a character in a reality TV show called Donald Trumps’s America. He plays on the worst fears and resentments of people and seeks only to tap into their hatred of “the other”. Say what you want about Mitt—I never remember him asking people to hate their fellow man.

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:21 a.m.

    ""The days of taking it silently are over," Bannon declared at a rally...".

    That is the mindset of many women also.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 10:14 p.m.

    "The battle for the GOP's soul spilled into a dirt-floor barn deep in rural Alabama."
    The soul of the GOP has found itself seeking revitalisation among the strains of 'Dueling Banjos'. Where an accused child molester finds support in his community.
    Maybe we should take a step back and visualise this picture for a few moments.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 10:07 p.m.

    The fact that Bannon, Trump and Utah politicians can support a guy like Roy Moore is a testament to how low the GOP has fallen. Shame.