Utah's Martha vs. Philo debate marches on

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  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 1:07 p.m.

    @Chucky
    Your memory doesn't match his bio in WikiPedia.
    I trust WikiPedia.

    You say he moved to Idaho at age 5.
    WikiPedia says 12.

    Wikipedia:
    "Philo T. Farnsworth was born August 19, 1906, the eldest of five children of Lewis Edwin Farnsworth and Serena Amanda Bastian, a Mormon couple then living in a small log cabin built by Lewis's father in a place called Indian Creek near Beaver, Utah. In 1918, the family moved to a relative's 240-acre ranch near Rigby, Idaho"...

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    Utah doesn't have any "legitimate" claim on Philo.
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    Actually... they do.

    Farnsworth was born in Utah. Died in Utah. And was buried in Utah (not Idaho)

    Wikipedia:
    BornPhilo Taylor Farnsworth
    August 19, 1906
    Beaver, Utah, United States
    DiedMarch 11, 1971 (aged 64)
    Salt Lake City, Utah, United States
    Cause of deathPneumonia
    Resting placeProvo City Cemetery,
    Provo, Utah, United States

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    RE: "He is an Idaho boy"...
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    OK. He lived in Idaho (for 5 years). He moved to Provo in 1923.

    Don't know what makes an "Idaho boy". But it does sound like Utah has some claim to him (it's all over his bio).

    Let's just share him.. OK? He's both. Idaho can have a statue of him too. OK?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 1:00 p.m.

    This would be another kick in the teeth to Farnsworth. He had a lot of trouble with Sarnoff and others trying to steal his patents and inventions. He deserves the recognition. Cannon doesn't.

    Farnsworth's inventions impact all of our lives today.

  • Chucky D Logan, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 12:29 p.m.

    Utah doesn't have any legitimate claim on Philo. He moved to the promised land of Idaho at age 5. He first came up with the idea of transmitting images through the air while working in a potato field in Rigby at the young age of 14. He is an Idaho boy.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    I wish they could both stay there. You can't really place one over the other. And it's not a competition.

    I hope it's not a sexist thing... Removing him because he's a man, or sending her statue because she's a woman. Gender should have nothing to do with it IMO.

    I respect them both. I wish we could recognize them both. They both did great things, and Utah should be proud of them. Both of them.

    I hope the loser gets a place of prominence in the State Capitol, where we can all be reminded of the things they did.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 10:14 a.m.

    Please correct me if any of the following statements are untrue.

    1. Did Mrs Cannon leave Utah with her child and moved to England for two years during the polygamist investigations? (Hardly the actions of a typical Utah pioneer woman)?

    2. Did Mrs Cannon as she grew older leave Utah for Southern California dying in Los Angeles in 1933? (She did not want to stay in Utah )

    3. Did Mrs Cannon in the later years of her life have a problem with "Self Medication"? (Look up the definition of self medication)

    To satisfy political correctness is our legislature in the infinite wisdom going to remove the statue of Philo Farnsworth and replace it with this Utah Pioneer plural wife?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 9:22 a.m.

    Philo belongs in a shrine or some kind of exhibit up on the mountain by the transmitter sites. No more fitting place for him.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 8:02 a.m.

    My question remains. If Mrs. Cannon were instead Mr. Cannon, would her accomplishments outshine Philo Farnsworth?

    If the answer is honestly "yes" then make the change.

    But if the primary reason Mrs. Cannon seems worthy is because she was a woman, then keep her statue in the State capital while leaving Farnsworth in the national capital.

    Enough with quotas and political correctness. Utah gets two statues in the national capital and we've got two of well known people who are both recognized less for political "contributions" than for scientific or social contributions.

    Settlement of the West under the direction of Brigham Young is a huge deal. The invention of TV and a couple hundred other things is no small matter.

    Being the first woman/racial minority/sexual minority/religious or ethnic minority to do something that lots of others did previously simply doesn't compare.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 7:56 a.m.

    Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

  • lnkmom Lehi, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 7:26 a.m.

    I don't understand why this is a one or the other issue.... there are numerous statues all over DC... why can't two Utahns be honored???? I've read the list of statues and some states have more than one...

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 5:49 a.m.

    Utter Nonsense!

    Tradition and history means nothing to these jokers on the Hill.
    This is nothing but appeasement to the PC police.

    Remember when they got rid of the Utah Blue Spruce as our Majestic State Tree?
    And now they're going to kick out of Statuary Hall, one of the the greatest inventors this Nation has ever seen? And by far, the greatest inventor Utah has ever known?

    I'm sorry, but a State Senator-M.D., born in Wales, who fought for the suffrage movement, can't even be mentioned in the same breath with the man who enlightened the World with over 300 U.S. and foreign patents.

    Among many others, his inventions also contributed to the development of radar, infra-red night vision devices, the electron microscope, the baby incubator, the gastroscope, and the astronomical telescope.

    He alone solved the mystery of "Electronic Television" which opened the door to the
    "Great Technological Awakening".

    Philo Farnsworth was cheated by David Sarnoff and RCA in life, as they vainly attempted to take credit for his inspired work.
    Let's not cheat Utah's Native Son, once again.

    Do not strip Philo Farnsworth of his well deserved place in history!

  • emb Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 4:17 a.m.

    All the school kids in Utah helped raise money for the Philo statue. The representative's efforts to replace it are misplaced. That in no way diminishes the accomplishments of women. It merely means that elected representatives had all options when they chose Philo. I saw first hand the entire process and was there with school children and leaders at the dedication in DC. emb

  • Chancey Sandy, UT
    Feb. 13, 2018 3:27 a.m.

    What a close one: On one hand you have someone who impacted all women and changed politics in this country for good. On the other, someone who impacted all of us. I am, after all typing this onto a screen, you will all read this on your's.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2018 11:05 p.m.

    Put them both there. They are equally deserving.

  • Spoc Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2018 11:00 p.m.

    The vast majority of the 100 statues there are of politicians no one ever heard of or care about.
    She will be in good company there.

    But Philo; everyone has benefited from his inventions. (TV was only the beginning.)
    Perhaps if he means so little to our Legislature, he belongs with the other super heroes of science in the Smithsonian. Given the opportunity to visit there, I would much rather see the Smithsonian than the National Capital.