It's time to end this rivalry. It just causes bitterness, and
contention.Let the twin brothers go their separate ways.
It's always amusing reading how much the 2nd most rival obsessed fan base
in the country lives in denial about the importance of the BYU-Utah rivalry.
AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZRE: "to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska,
Boise, Michigan State""Final rankings/records of these
schools?"Don't tell the whole story:BYU ended
Nebraska's 29 season home opener winning streak; Nebraska finished the
season stomping UCLA in the Foster Farms Bowl; UCLA stomped U in RES.BYU beat Boise St 35-24 the week after the Broncos beat Washington; Boise St
also destroyed Virginia 56-14.BYU destroyed the Spartans 31-14 at
Michigan St ; Ohio St barely beat MSU 17-16 and Michigan only beat the Spartans
STriker - Ask people outside of your local ward. You probably will get a
different response. It is always amusing to see comments by Mormons outside
Utah who get their cues from the local wards on what is going on within their
particular state about BYU and Utah. Nearly all outside of Utah don't know
and don't care(I say that having lived in 19 different states and worked in
15 more and traveled extensively in all 50). Local wards in states other than
Utah will almost always be wrong about the impression of the rivalry within the
BYU still has a football team?Huh.....
I think SoonerUte wins at life today. Nice.
Striker, coming from the Midwest to Utah I agree its unusual for fans to hope
their rival fails. They only root against their rival on game week, and later
in the year if it makes a difference in the conference title race.I
also never experienced a cheerleading local media that so consistently
over-hyped a team, predicting special seasons, national title contention, and
co-Heisman trophy winners.Since you came from Utah, I suggest your
perspective is still blue-goggled. Your claim that little red fans would
rather watch BYU lose than their own team win may have been true 20 years ago,
when the Ute program struggled. That changed as the Ute program has risen. Now
big red fans are caught up in Southern Division races, and while the little blue
fans tune in to hope the Utes fail. There is definitely a Cougar obsession with
the Utes.Also, you give too much credit to Utah fans -- Aggie fans
also enjoy a good Cougar loss.
"to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State"Final rankings/records of these schools?And yes, contrary to
your wishful-thinking, it's in fact not only possible, but reality that one
can love one's own school & wish it to win & simultaneously root
against another school, period.
@ StrikerYep; BYU fans NEVER rub it in on Utah after a loss. It
always amuses me when BYU fans act like their fan base is above that when
nothing, and I mean nothing, could be further from the truth. Fortunately the
ones I know don't say squat when face to face; it's pretty easy to
take shots under a goofy little screen name on this forum. Whole different story
in person. As far as the hatred goes; take a look at the very first post on this
thread; that pretty much sums it up.
Red, you completely missed the point. I don't live in Utah, and I
don't judge a fan base just off the comments of a newspaper, but I've
heard from numerous, numerous different people in Utah who have said there are
an innumerable amount of little red 'fans' who would rather watch BYU
lose than their own team win. You're post proves that 100%. I'm so
glad I don't live there anymore. I get to travel all over the Midwest to
see BYU play and I love the Big Ten rivalries, but nowhere do I see any fan base
who desires to see any school lose more than their own team win. It's just
nuts. I even read an article from a ute radio station who discussed this once
and had the same concerns. They didn't understand why a fan base acts that
I like the idea of eliminating the regular season game, and matching up Utah and
BYU in Vegas. It made early bowl season interesting, and both teams would have
to earn their way to the game. The new NFL stadium should increase the value of
that bowl.Utah would go to the Las Vegas Holy Bowl provided they are
not the PAC12 representative in the playoffs, selected for the Rose Bowl, or
selected for the Alamo Bowl.BYU would go... well... if they're bowl
eligible, because what other choices do they have?
@StrikerYou say that Utah fans were "forced to watch BYU beat
the likes of Nebraska, Boise, Michigan State etc instead of watching their own
team."That is only half the story. To be fair, you should have
also included that they were forced to watch BYU lose to the likes of Utah
State, Virginia, Washington, UCLA, Nevada, Central Florida, Michigan, Memphis,
Boise State, Missouri, and, yes, Utah (6 times in a row, and 11 of the last
14).I'd say that it wasn't really that painful.
@Christoph"Will Utah follow through and play the game in Provo
in September?"If Utah values the health and safety of its
players, fans, and coaches (and their wives) they won't.
Will Utah follow through and play the game in Provo in September? Stay tuned.
Well, Dr. Rock, I don't find your comment particularly amusing.
Agreed. Little red already cancelled it and that exact fan base couldn't
get enough of BYU. They were forced to watch BYU beat the likes of Nebraska,
Boise, Michigan State etc instead of watching their own team play. This topic needs to be dropped. How many schools have a true rival? Very few.
It's makes sports so much more fun to watch and follow. Each team takes
turns being at the top. If fans can't handle it oh well. Let the game be
Would've make a bit of difference for the BYU-obsessed haters Rock.