S.L. offers plan to clean up, reduce crime in Rio Grande area

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  • Dibs Alpine, UT
    May 19, 2017 5:04 p.m.

    Would someone like to connect the dots on the desire to invite homeless people to Utah and the increase in crime? Or connect the dots when the SLC mayor in 2000 said he wanted Salt Lake City to become more like NYC?

    Can we expect the namesake of the homeless fund we contribute to on our state income taxes speak out and get involved in the crime that has increased as the number of homeless has increased?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    May 19, 2017 1:47 p.m.

    HOW MANY times have various mayors, and police chiefs in SLC had a "press conference" to talk about how they are going to "clean up" Pioneer Park, and the surrounding areas??

    Talk is cheap; as are do-nothing "press conferences".

    SLC has, basically rolled out the welcome mat for the homeless and criminal drug-dealing element in SLC.

    Then, when the problem becomes overwhelming they decide to spend 30 million bucks and build even MORE shelters - but not in their city.

    The ONLY thing standing between SLC becoming just like Detroit is the LDS church, and the way they maintain their properties impeccably.

    I'm glad I don't live in SLC!!

  • ERB Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 19, 2017 1:10 p.m.

    Sounds like typical politicians. Throwing money does not fix problems. Salt Lake City has basically become a "Sanctuary " city for the homeless. Plan all you want, but allowing these people to stay on the street doing drugs all day long exacerbates the problem. If you see criminal activity, arrest them.

  • midvale guy MIDVALE, UT
    May 19, 2017 11:04 a.m.

    Salt Lake City is way too easy on these offenders. They should be forced into jails and forced to work and pay for their stay in the jail. Once the word got around that being homeless in Salt Lake City leads to nothing but jail and work they will quit coming here. We are well known as a place that allows for the homeless population and even contributes to it. This plan by the mayor is nothing but a waste of money. There are already plenty of places for those that are serious about getting help to go. If we look 10 years down the road at plans like the one the mayor is proposing, Salt Lake City will be too far gone to save. There is a four letter word that will scare all of them to other states. WORK.

  • Scott3 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 19, 2017 9:48 a.m.

    Criminalizing doesn't work? Singapore (among many other countries) is very tough on drugs (for example, death penalty for dealers). Their tough stance is working very well. It isn't perfect, but working quite well.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    May 19, 2017 8:56 a.m.

    @Pam Flinders
    I disagree with your comments about criminalizing drug abuse.
    Drug addicts live in a world with victims all around them. They get in trouble, the judge sends them to treatment, they don't follow through, they get in trouble again, the judge gives them three...four...five chances, they still can't stay clean.

    The family takes them in and takes care of them, but they get kicked out of the house or get mad a leave. Repeat a dozen times.

    Friends, church people try to help but they can't follow through. People stick their necks out with jobs, but they skip work or fight with customers.

    They end up sleeping in their cars and stealing (shoplifting, burglary, robbery) to buy drugs and gas.

    Like Timothy Troy Walker.

    These people belong in jail or in mental hospitals. Criminalizing works. What doesn't work are treatment programs. Until we figure out who cannot be treated the entire population is at risk.

  • Oblio Salt Lake City, UT
    May 19, 2017 8:58 a.m.

    Totally underwhelming.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    May 19, 2017 8:35 a.m.

    What a difference a couple of months makes. When they were trying to convince residents that homeless shelters weren't dangerous and that people in South Salt lake and Draper were hysterical about nothing, they'd bring in docile, rational, down-on-their-luck examples of homeless people.

    Now they have their sites, they bring in extra parking for cop cars, more patrols and toilets.

    Oh, the hypocrisy!

    It just proves they knew all along they were spreading dangerous people around the valley for selfish reasons.

  • dski HERRIMAN, UT
    May 19, 2017 8:25 a.m.

    I'm wondering if the powers to spent our tax dollars have ever thought of separating the homeless folks into their proper categories and make a decision on how to help them accordingly. There are folks with mental illness who should have a different approach to their needs. There are also those who are there for economic reasons. Some are there because they do not want any responsibility in life. And let us not forget those who are there to incite or enable criminal behaviors and conducts. By identifying and prioritizing their needs, it will be a lot easier to establish a clear objective to be supported by the public. Properly resourced shelters designated for each homeless population is essential. The economic misfortunes and domestic violence population should be separated from the mental health shelters. The criminal elements should be housed at Sheriff Winders' home since he decided to limit the capacity of the County Jail. With such clear goals, as a taxpayer, I am willing to support those ideas. But with the "build and bundle them together" mentality, no amount of money will ever satisfy such dreams. We are throwing money into the winds.

  • ute alumni SLC, UT
    May 19, 2017 7:28 a.m.

    Send in jackie and Ben. That'll take care of it

  • taxingthepoor SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 19, 2017 5:15 a.m.

    The only way Salt Lake city is cleaning up the homeless is to ship them to South Salt Lake city. They are destroying another city to save themselves.

  • mightymite , 00
    May 19, 2017 12:59 a.m.

    Take your prescribed meds, get off the illegal drugs and booze and get a job. Problem solved... And to all you enablers quit giving money to panhandlers. No compassion here, tied of no personal responsibility in this matter and the way this populations choices affect the people and community around them.

  • PamFlinders Sandy, UT
    May 19, 2017 12:07 a.m.

    Criminalizing drug abuse doesnt work. When I think of the people that I know personally that have died of drug overdoses in the past ten years - they weren't bad people but my kindly neighbor who got addicted after a skiing accident and the football star from my high school who got hooked after pain meds from surgery. They fell into the situation without realizing the cost and paid dearly. They had money and family that kept them off of the streets but some aren't so lucky and many turn to crime to support the habit.

    The more we criminalize drug addiction the more the whole industry is swept into the shadows and taken over by criminals. We need rehab centers and places where addicts can get steady doses of methadone or other treatments could go a long way in giving those who want to quit support.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    May 18, 2017 11:55 p.m.

    Yet another waste of time and money. This "plan" (if you can call it that) is just another boondoggle.

  • justathought1232 West Jordan, UT
    May 18, 2017 11:02 p.m.

    So, what is the plan when they walk a block or two west, east, north, or south to camp and/or do illegal activities? The issue is not just 500 West. "Fixing" that street just means the issues will move slightly in another direction. The businesses on 500 West may be happy, but then what about the businesses on 200 South?

    It seems to me that the fix needs to do something that reduces the number of homeless and criminals on the street. Offering "programs" is not the answer either, that is likely to backfire and attract more to the area (seems that is what is occurring now).

    What is the root cause of the persons "homeless" situation? What occurred that alienated them from all family and/or friends who would be there to help? The root cause needs to be addressed and I don't think this does that.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 18, 2017 10:09 p.m.

    Crime does not get cleaned up by street lights and bathrooms.

    Crime stops when the criminals quit doing illegal things, most importantly drug abuse.
    Every drug user and dealer needs to be locked up. (Not just the ones clustered around Pioneer Park.)

    The mentally ill cannot be allowed to roam in feral packs as prey for the criminal element. They must be institutionalized, if you want to fix their problems, because they do not see that they have problems, and if we continue to do what we have always done with the mentally ill (especially arguing that "they have rights" and cannot be forced to live "normal lives") we will get what we currently have and will always have.

    Homelessness needs to be attacked as three separate issues: criminals, mental illness, and the smallest segment- the economic homeless.

    "Help wanted" signs are all over SLC, so there is no excuse for any able bodied person not working, if they truly want a job.