BYU returning to familiar Boise to face Western Michigan in Famous Idaho Potato Bowl

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  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 4, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    @ Sparkling Briefs,

    We real, secular Utes aren't "throwing shade" on the Y whatsoever. We're beyond fatigued that we are continually obligated by the "powers" that control the state of Utah. Times have changed, and being forced to schedule a parochial school is simply absurd and offensive in the 21st century.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 4, 2018 10:14 a.m.

    BYU is, always has been, "America's darling." Their owners and the elite "social club" they promote to no end is the "envy" of this planet without one doubt. Really, what human being wouldn't want to live in Provo, Utah?

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Dec. 4, 2018 8:14 a.m.

    I don’t get Ute fans throwing shade at BYU for this bowl appearance. BYU has improved over last year and earned post-season play. This game gives Wilson more practice time and another chance to show what he can do in a meaningful game. A win keeps the fan base excited for next year and what is more fun than an optimistic Cougar fan?

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 3, 2018 10:11 p.m.

    CG - Provo, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 3:19 p.m.
    NightOwlAmerica - SALEM, OR
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:45 p.m.
    “Player gifts = a bag of freeze dried hash browns.”

    Remind us what player gifts U received from playing couch potato in 2012 and 2013?

    How about from 1965 to 1991?
    _____

    Ahh yes, the "Remind us" game. A favorite of BYU fans.
    There is only on example of those two words that matters.
    Remind us the last time BYU was officially extended a real conference invite?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 7:02 p.m.

    @BlueHusky - Saratoga Springs, UT

    People, forget the BYU won-loss record this year. It was clearly a rebuilding year. Bronco left the cupboard bare when he left, and this is only the beginning of Sitake's recruits coming back from missions. This young team gave Utah all they could handle, and 4 or 5 key injuries to BYU players was the main reason Utah was able to come back from the hole they were in.

    ------

    Alternative reality.

    The fact is, Bronco's class rankings were better than Sitake's.

    The #1 most rival obsessed fanbase always comparing itself to big brother Utah. Nope, you barely put up a fight in the 2nd half, 35-7, after Utah awoke from boredom.

  • Time2Play , 00
    Dec. 3, 2018 6:59 p.m.

    Why are so many saying that the bowl game is worthless? Yes, it's embarrassing that we are going to the Potato Bowl, but it's a lot better than going 4-9. Yes, it was a pretty rough season, but I still love my cougs and will be at the bowl game. We get our team meshing and prepped for the great schedule we have next year.

    I love the Ute troll comments, they make me laugh. As long as they get them that little boost of self esteem they need to move along with their sub-par, monotonous lives.

  • BlueHusky Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 5:36 p.m.

    People, forget the BYU won-loss record this year. It was clearly a rebuilding year. Bronco left the cupboard bare when he left, and this is only the beginning of Sitake's recruits coming back from missions. This young team gave Utah all they could handle, and 4 or 5 key injuries to BYU players was the main reason Utah was able to come back from the hole they were in.

    As a Husky, I was gratified by their wins over Utah, but I have to say Utah is a defense-only team. Never have an offense. And Washington simply stopped their subpar offense and hung on for breaks. Personally, I wouldn't walk across the street to watch a Utah game unless Washington or BYU were playing.

    BYU has some very good young players, but I'm suspicious that their weight program is too soft. The injury count over the last two years has been way too high. Still, kids require a couple of years out of high school to maximize their strength and conditioning.

    I hope the Boise game will be in the daytime. December in Boise at night is COLD. Their stadium is really nice, and bowl shaped, so not as much wind as LES.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 4:41 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CA

    Don't be too hard on your Cougs. Honestly there aren't many really good bowls out there. After the NY6/CFP, what bowls are truly good?

    Would you want this yr's BYU team to play a ranked P5 team? FYI, Wisconsin isn't ranked at all. End of yr. rankings are what matter. Not what they were ranked when you played them.

    A bowl is a bowl, is a bowl, if you aren't in the NY6 or CFP. It's all good extra practices that matter and BYU has them.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Dec. 3, 2018 4:36 p.m.

    I love famous potatoes and I’m happy to see BYU back in a bowl game. Good luck Cougars!!

  • CG Provo, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 3:19 p.m.

    NightOwlAmerica - SALEM, OR
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:45 p.m.
    “Player gifts = a bag of freeze dried hash browns.”

    Remind us what player gifts U received from playing couch potato in 2012 and 2013?

    How about from 1965 to 1991?

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:45 p.m.

    Player gifts = a bag of freeze dried hash browns.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:31 p.m.

    There is a strong BYU Booster Club in Boise which should help attendance.

    You can bet that the average Boise Joe citizen will NOT attend this game. They consider BYU a rival. Boise is a wonderful place to live and visit. I hope the people there are cordial to the Y.

    Go Cougars!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:20 p.m.

    re: "Guaranteed, if BYU had been playing Washington for the PAC 12 championship, BYU would have had 35,000 fans at the game."

    timid sparrow: “BYU can't even get 35,000 actual paying fans at a home game”

    Lol 😂

    BYU has averaged 10,000+ more paying fans than Utah-SLC stadium capacity every season since 1982.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 2:11 p.m.

    scrappy do

    “BYU get yourself back in the mountain west...”

    Why?

    So that half of BYU’s games can be televised on FACEBOOK?

    So that BYU can make less than half as much television revenue?

    So that the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl can be the top prize for winning the MWC?

    So that BYU can go back to playing 2 P5’s, instead of 4 to 6, every season?

  • IdahoCoog Malad City, ID
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:44 p.m.

    Many thanks go to BYU fans who support this team, and bowl, for with their support hereby shown BYU, Kilani's coaching staff, and the youth movement on this team will excel with recruits, in prominence and performance next year.

    And a special thanks to BYU detractors, rivals who strongly show by their extensive comments BYU's living in their heads, more so even than their own teams .

  • BrianB Greencastle, IN
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:32 p.m.

    Okay, you are peeving me.

    1). Nepotism is favoritism based upon familial relationship. It does not apply here. Please don't use it. If, indeed, ESPN swapped the bowls around, it is because they were looking at $$$$. They are the big money source for these bowls and so they exercised that muscle. Money rules college football. That is unfortunate for Wyoming and they have reason to be upset.

    2). It is pure arrogance that flows through criticisms of Boise and WMU. Yes, the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl is a deserving bowl fame for a 6-6 team. Boise is regularly picked as one of America's best places to live. Western Michigan is in the MAC and the MAC regularly beats P5 powerhouses because the MAC is underappreciated. BYU will need to be on their game.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:17 p.m.

    Burrr, its gonna be cold at the frozen potato bowl... I predict that there will be 980 in actual attendance but the TV announcers say something like 51,000 in attendance... BYU get yourself back in the mountain west... this independence thing is for the birds

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:16 p.m.

    @just the fax

    "Guaranteed, if BYU had been playing Washington for the PAC 12 championship, BYU would have had 35,000 fans at the game."

    BYU-P can't even get 35,000 actual paying fans at a home game - what makes you think you'd get that many for a road game? Remember, there are no giveaways or $5 Creamery vouchers for the PAC12 championship game.

    Well, maybe next year BYU-P will make it to the PAC12 championship game and you can show us how well you would travel. Oh, wait...

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:58 p.m.

    JustGordon blowing smoke

    “Not even addressed is the price of tickets...there is such great demand for a PAC12 big-time football product that there is a waiting list...”

    If the commuter school Utes really had enough fans to fill a 60,000+ seat stadium on a regular basis, why are they only expanding capacity to 51,000?

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:26 p.m.

    UteBlueDevil

    “Fact is Utes sold out every game (plus/minus a percent or two).”

    unfortunately, the Utes don’t travel well

    2018 Conference Championship Game Attendance:

    P12: 35,134 Utah-Wash
    SEC: 77,141 Ala-Ga
    B1G: 66,375 OSU-NW
    B12: 83,114 Tex-Okl
    ACC: 66,774 Clem-Pitt

    Guaranteed, if BYU had been playing Washington for the PAC 12 championship, BYU would have had 35,000 fans at the game.

  • first2third Elmo, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:21 p.m.

    Nothing better than being outside in Boise watching a mediocre football team on a cold December Friday night! Go Cougs!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:17 p.m.

    BJMoose - "wholeheartedly agree from a business perspective BYU is the better choice and will do more for the bottom line than Wyoming would have. I still feel from an ethnical and even a contractional standpoint however that it should have been Wyoming that was invited."

    The Wyoming athletic director clarified that Boise State earned the Potato Bowl bid and BYU was headed to the First Responder Bowl to play Boston College. However, the bowl owner (ESPN) decided that Boise State - Boston College was a better match up, and swapped the two.

    BYU did not rob Wyoming of a MWC bid. It was Boise's spot before the swap.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:15 p.m.

    @ Real Ute - Dallas, TX - Dec. 2, 2018 2:03 p.m. - "There are some LDS folks near Boise.........BYU may get a few fans to show up, finally!"

    Hey, RealUte, did you buy your tickets yet to see your vaunted Utes play in the Rose Bowl?

    Oh, wait a minute....

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:06 p.m.

    Gordon,

    Revenues are up since joining the PAC, as are expenses.

    Utah does what's best for Utah, budgets grew to $72.2M from $29.7M in the MWC which is amazing due largely to Tier 1 TV rights ($29M) and donations doubling to $10.8M.

    Meanwhile in the PAC you have the 2nd smallest budget and are dealing with coaching salaries exploding to $14.6M from $5.2M with an increase over the past 5 years of nearly 3x the increase for athletic tuition and food and insurance - which is a black eye right now.

    2017 Utah brought is $72.4M, impressive - and they spent $72.2M. Take away donations ($10.8M) and student fees ($6M) and University support ($1.8M) and it's not exactly viable - but teams exist for university advertising and the ability to gain more donations and promote the school. Overall Utah should be commended because it's a net gain. In the top 20 revenue schools only Oregon ($0.2M) and Washington ($3.7M) posted positive gains like Utah.

    What does this have to do with BYU?

    Not much.

    But BYU has it's #3 ranked accounting program, it's revenues are on par with most P5 schools, expenses far less, and well beyond any G5 school there. BYU holds it's own very well.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 11:29 a.m.

    To Top Of The World excellent well thought out post. And I wholeheartedly agree from a business perspective BYU is the better choice and will do more for the bottom line than Wyoming would have. I still feel from an ethnical and even a contractional standpoint however that it should have been Wyoming that was invited. For this bowl cycle I think ESPN’s contract obligation began and ended with the Poinsettia Bowl.

  • JustGordon Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 11:28 a.m.

    @FatMountainMan

    UTAH can't sell tickets for seats they don't have...the season average you cite...is ABOVE capacity...NOT so down in Provo where our little blue brothers are averaging only 89% of capacity...with 56 CONSECUTIVE sold out games.

    Not even addressed is the price of tickets...there is such great demand for a PAC12 big-time football product that there is a waiting list...conversely in Provo there is no demand and I am sure that there are lots of discounted tickets available for those who want to freeze in November watch New Mexico State.

    UTAH's total athletic budget is $83.67 million putting them at 48th in the Nation, BYU's $62.56 million. UTAH's budget is 1/3 more!! That's why you will continue to be "our little brother."

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    Dec. 3, 2018 11:10 a.m.

    The Cougars will be catching the Broncos at a good time. Their starting quarterback is injured and will most likely not play.

  • top of the world ,
    Dec. 3, 2018 10:24 a.m.

    BJMoose...you have a valid point and have done some research, which is more than some who comment on these threads do. However, while nepotism is generally viewed as someone or something gaining undo favor because of friendship (or being a relative, as in the old days), one should not overlook the fact that sometimes a decision is made with a view of making a good business decision.

    From ESPN's perspective, while both schools had 6-6 records (with Wyoming losing to Hawaii and getting beaten by Boise by 20, two common opponents), I think those in control who make the decisions felt inviting the Y would be the best business decision. I don't necessarily agree or disagree. Perhaps a little for the latter as the tv sets will probably be turned on for the Y more than for the Cowboys. I have no data to support that, just supposition.

    Of all the states in our sometimes troubled Union, my favorite people are those in Wyoming. Good people everywhere, but having worked and traveled extensively in Wyoming, they are the folks who resonate with me with the sweetest vibes.

    As a Y fan I would have been upset had the Y been left out. I can understand how Cowboy fans probably feel.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    phoenix "those advocating BYU’s return to the MWC should consider the above bowl lineup and the MWC’s pitiful television contract when claiming that Independence is a failure."

    The MWC Bowls that you ridicule are the exact same ones that ESPN makes available to Indy BYU. BYU doesn't have great bowl options. It's odd for a fan base to claim they have something to offer a P5 conference, but they insist that they cannot help the MWC become better. Really? BYU can't improve the television and bowl access? I thought BYU had world-wide influence.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 10:06 a.m.

    @at long last. . . - Kirksville , MO

    "The byu fans should give thanks to ESPN for finding them a home, better than they deserve, against a weak opponent whom they may be able to beat"
    = = = = =
    " BYU (6-6) and Western Michigan (7-5) have played one common opponent this season — MAC champion Northern Illinois. The Cougars fell at home to the Huskies, 7-6, on Oct. 27. The Broncos defeated NIU on Nov. 28, 28-21.......... Western Michigan boasts a running back, LeVante Bellamy, who has 190 carries for 1,172 yards and six touchdowns. Jamarui Bogan has rushed 156 times for 702 yards and 15 TDs..... We know how well BYU defends the run!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:49 a.m.

    eagle - Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 11:25 p.m.
    “The problem with independence isn't the bowl game per se but the fact that after a couple of losses, the season loses steam and relevance. I'd rather much be Utah State going up to play Boise with something at stake vs. playing New Mexico State in a game that means really nothing. Even in the MWC, BYU was able to line up early season games with the likes of OU, Texas, Notre Dame, UCLA, Washington, Mississippi State among others.”

    In the MWC, BYU rarely played more than a couple of P5’s.

    As an Independent, BYU plays 4 to 6 P5’s each season.

    In the MWC, BYU would stuck with CT’s lame television contract which pays almost nothing and had the Aggies playing FIVE of their games on FACEBOOK this season.

    As an Independent, every BYU game is televised on ABC, CBS, FOX, ESPN or BYUtv.

    A scheduling arrangement with the MWC would be beneficial to both, as long as it included Boise St and Utah St every year.

    Other than that, Independence is superior to rejoining the MWC.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:41 a.m.

    phoenix - Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 8:17 p.m.
    BJMoose - Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:59 p.m.
    “BYU took a spot that should have gone to a MWC team and Wyoming was bowl eligible and left out. This pick absolutely stinks and reeks of nepotism.“

    No, it speaks of a team having a multi-year contract with ESPN, which owns 13 bowls and guarantees BYU a bowl if the Cougars are bowl eligible.

    My rebuttal,
    ESPN also has a contract with the MWC who has a tie in with the FIP Bowl. ESPN’s contract with BYU was regarding the Poinsettia Bowl. The fact that this bowl went out of business has nothing to do with Wyoming and Wyoming shouldn’t be penalized or denied a bowl opportunity because of it. It’s BYU that should have drawn the short stick. It is what it is, nepotism.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:34 a.m.

    Re: SoonerUte
    "Extra practices is another reason to join a conference and go to a CCG."

    You're preaching to the choir my friend. I've disliked the Indie model from the moment it was announced.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:33 a.m.

    "This is what you get when you go independent and say that you will play anybody anywhere."

    Yup..........

  • top of the world ,
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:24 a.m.

    AzUte...hope you and yours have a very happy holiday season and a great new year. Enjoy cheering your team on. We appreciate our Cougars and feel toward them just as you apparently do for the Utes. I hope Chase has a game for the ages in his final collegiate effort. What a superb player and person.

    Happy Holidays, everyone!

  • top of the world ,
    Dec. 3, 2018 9:14 a.m.

    Spokane Ute...you are a classy source offering realistic comments. It goes to show that a fan can be avid about his team and still remain civil when commenting on another. I have many good memories of Spokane, including playing a Church area tournament on our way to what was to be the final All-Church softball tourney. We won in Spokane, but ended up losing in SLC. Great memories.

    There are several pluses in playing in a bowl game. First, it gives the seniors one last hurrah before they hang up the cleats forever. It also gives the freshman another opportunity to hone the skills they will use next season. As I understand it, at one time or the another we played something like 20 freshman this season. And it gives new coaches some very good, concentrated time to work out the kinks.

    Happy holiday season to all. Perhaps all three of our teams will take home the gold.

  • Kaladin Northern, CO
    Dec. 3, 2018 8:48 a.m.

    Improvement this season despite the young group. BYU is headed the right direction. We'll be fine Ute fans. See you early next season! Go Cougs!

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 8:44 a.m.

    deibu:

    “BYU should have beaten Cal, NIU, Boise State and Utah... but they couldn't come up with the play call ...or the play... they needed. So instead of 10-2, you have 6-6.”

    Byu ALSO could have just as easily lost to Arizona and Wisconsin, as well as Cal, NIU, Boise, USU and Utah. Then you wouldn’t have A bowl game TO worry about! Why do coug fans always play the “should have” and “what if” cards? It is what it is. Any bowl is better than none. IMO

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 7:40 a.m.

    This is what you get when you go independent and say that you will play anybody anywhere.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 6:27 a.m.

    @FatMountainMan - As a Y fan, you might want to revisit your argument about which team drew better. The Utes playing in a smaller stadium had on their worse attendance day just less than 2,000 open seats. Their average was 46,000 - which is the stadiums capacity. BYU on the other hand averaged 88% capacity, and having attended all those games, that is a generous number. There were plenty of times that stadium looked 65% full at best.

    Fact is Utes sold out every game (plus/minus a percent or two). BYU was struggling to fill seats. Even the student section looked pathetic at times. Something needs to be done to get the excitement back about BYU football.... before they permanently slip into the mid-majors category.

    In the meantime - go Lady Cougs Volleyball!!!

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    Dec. 3, 2018 6:15 a.m.

    This is a great match up in a great location. BYU has great fan appeal in Idaho and has played many exciting games on the Blue. It’s facing a worthy opponent and it’s a great opportunity to get a win at Albertsons Stadium. I will definitely consider going to this game and Go Cougars!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Dec. 3, 2018 5:39 a.m.

    deibu - Since you are suggesting a fantasy past season for byu that shoulda/coulda been 10-2, why not just say they should have had an undefeated season and gone to the national championship playoffs? Makes as much sense. It could be time to inject some realism into your thinking.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:53 a.m.

    "Play by the same rules and circumstances as everyone else. Join a league, this is getting really old."

    So rather than having it's own risks and rewards, byu should join a league so that they can be relegated to not going bowling when they have a winning record, and be miserable like those in Laramie.

    Makes perfect sence.

    Bonus points for the games that are streaming live on Facebook!

  • Mowgli54 Granite Bay, CA
    Dec. 3, 2018 1:35 a.m.

    I find these comments about this bowl game, including the irony of its using the word “famous” to mask its obscurity and marginal relevance, entertaining and kinda funny.

    Sad truth is that BYU’s had qb problems for years, first with Taysom Hill’s annual injuries then with Tanner Mangum’s quixotic performance. However. We have a qb now, and the kid is legit. Don’t know if he’s mission-bound, but if he sticks around in two years we may have a high-powered team. We’ll see.

    In the meantime, looks like W Michigan is a great opponent. Very good but certainly beatable if we play well and some of the guys (RBs) can get healthy. So pass the butter, grated cheese and bacon. Time to chomp a potato up in Boise.

  • custer Boise, ID
    Dec. 3, 2018 12:45 a.m.

    As a Boise resident, I am really looking forward to BYU coming to town to play in the Potato Bowl. I will be attending the game with my sons, along with thousands of other BYU fans who live in the Boise metro area. Albertsons Stadium will be rocking!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 11:25 p.m.

    The problem with independence isn't the bowl game per se but the fact that after a couple of losses, the season loses steam and relevance. I'd rather much be Utah State going up to play Boise with something at stake vs. playing New Mexico State in a game that means really nothing. Even in the MWC, BYU was able to line up early season games with the likes of OU, Texas, Notre Dame, UCLA, Washington, Mississippi State among others.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 11:18 p.m.

    BYU will have a big advantage playing in their blue uniforms on the tacky blue field because it will be hard for Western Michigan defenders to see them. Of course, if it snows, BYU loses the advantage.

    However, the Western Michigan colors of brown and gold will fit in well with the potato theme.

  • JD Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 2, 2018 10:34 p.m.

    Four teams who are bowl eligible did not get bids to play in bowl games. BYU should be very grateful and thankful that they received a bid, as Wyoming played just as difficult of a schedule as BYU and clearly deserved the Mountain West's conferences bid to the Idaho Potato Bowl. Yes, ESPN has a contract with Provo, but unless BYU decides to join a conference like 98% of the rest of college football teams, this special privilege should be reconsidered. This scenario has happened in different forms but sorta the same way several times before back in the late 80's and 90's when Wyoming earned a bid, but the bowl went to BYU back when both teams were in the WAC and Mountain West conferences. Yet Provo fans wonder why the Cowboy faithful dislike them so much. Play by the same rules and circumstances as everyone else. Join a league, this is getting really old.

  • BYUToday OLATHE, KS
    Dec. 2, 2018 10:28 p.m.

    If BYU shows up and plays consistent they may finally have a win on the blue turf. I doubt they can pull it off but hope so!

  • endoftimes Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 10:13 p.m.

    Pheonix

    Someone had better notify the authorities that football and bowls are in the business of making money.

  • One of Vai's Cousins DC, Washington
    Dec. 2, 2018 10:00 p.m.

    Here is a very realistic comment to balance these typical posts out a bit:

    BYU averages around #60 in recruiting. Many of those kids stop all athletic activity for 2 years. The general atmosphere at BYU and honor code is appealing only to a very narrow percentage of possible recruits (making #60 a bit of an overachievement actually). This talent reality won’t change. As an independent we schedule early season teams that we just don’t have the talent, in most cases, to be competitive with. But independence does bring in more money and some fun early teams.

    This is the reality of BYU football folks. We had a better season than last year. That is something to chear about. Anything more is just BYU fans unable to accept reality.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:51 p.m.

    Once again, thanks to the BYU haters. This article on where BYU is headed for a bowl game has twice as many comments as the article on where Utah is headed.

    After so many years of independence, BYU still owns the hearts and minds of many. Go Cougars!

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:50 p.m.

    Just glad the Cougs are in a bowl game this year, it shows they have made some improvement and are headed in the right direction. Now next year (year 4) for Coach Sitake, I say keep winning games coach - if you end with say an 8-4 record, good deal, if not, I say bye-bye Coach.

  • FatMountainMan Tijeras, NM
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:34 p.m.

    @CougarForever:

    Speaking of in-state rivals going bowling: I am a deep blue Cougar, but have already bought my tickets to the New Mexico Bowl (twenty minutes away) to yell out in support of the Utags! Go Utah State and goooooo Cougars.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:04 p.m.

    Classy comment Spokane - those extra practices will be great for a young team.

    Players need it, kalani needs to find his disciplinary vibe that Lavell had and grimes needs to learn how to put the game away - and one more game is helpful to figure that out for all.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:03 p.m.

    @phoenix

    "BYU fans advocating BYU’s return to the MWC should consider the above bowl lineup and the MWC’s pitiful television contract when claiming that Independence is a failure."

    First of all, what makes you think you have a choice in the matter? Last I heard the MWC didn't want you back. You're stuck in independence.

    Second, just because the MWC is a failure does not mean independence isn't a failure. Independence and the MWC are both failures.

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:04 p.m.

    Good for fatmountainman, he's resigned himself that since the record stands at 0-8, and counting, he will proudly post attendance figures in an effort to get a "win".

    But remember, byu didn't even sell their allotment of 3,000 tickets for their "rivalry" game with Utah at RES. So, let's do away with the myth regarding byu nation traveling well. Shall we?

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 9:03 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap "15 extra practices to get ready for next year."
    Or to get ready for Western Michigan. They beat NIU. Cougars did not.

    Extra practices is another reason to join a conference and go to a CCG.

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 8:53 p.m.

    Such childish talk on here about who is playing in the better meaningless Bowl game ....... Ther are only 4 teams playing for anything in Bowl games .... everyone else is playing for funzeees and that’s a fact ! As I Cougar fan I do realize that the Y is lucky to be in any Bowl game this year just like the Utes were lucky to be in a Bowl game with a 6-6 record last year .... I believe that you should at least have to have a winning record to play in any post season bowl game .......

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    Dec. 2, 2018 8:34 p.m.

    You can take the cougar out of the Mountain West conference, but you can't take the Mountain West conference out of the Cougar.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 8:17 p.m.

    BJMoose - Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:59 p.m.
    “BYU took a spot that should have gone to a MWC team and Wyoming was bowl eligible and left out. This pick absolutely stinks and reeks of nepotism.“

    No, it speaks of a team having a multi-year contract with ESPN, which owns 13 bowls and guarantees BYU a bowl if the Cougars are bowl eligible.

    Bowls are strictly business and are always looking for matchups that will draw the most fans.

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:53 p.m.

    Year-in, year-out BYU recruiting ranks in the 60's; this year their play ranks in the 60's.

    When my dear old Idaho mother told me sometimes all they had to eat some years was potatoes. I asked, "What do you do when all you have to eat is potatoes."

    She replied simply, "You eat potatoes."

    Mmm, baked, fried, frenched, souped...and especially never badmouth the mighty tot. Go Cougs!

  • deibu Roseburg, OR
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:45 p.m.

    BYU should have beaten Cal, NIU, Boise State and Utah... but they couldn't come up with the play call ...or the play... they needed. So instead of 10-2, you have 6-6.

    Looks like we are replacing a MWC team in Boise as that is historically a MWC contracted bowl. For those who want a G5 conference this is where you go unless you have a great season. Had BYU been 10-2 you all know ESPN would have done BYU a solid. This is merely a representation of the season. Win the games along the way! That's the answer if you don't like Boise.

    Boise gives true fans an opportunity to rally and fill that stadium. Any other bowl game you might have had 10000 in attendance. For the frugal BYU fan this is the perfect opportunity. Most of you wouldn't have gone to Texas or Florida anyway, leaving it to the local fans to rep the Y. Boise gives fans from Seattle and Portland to SLC and both Eastern and Western Idaho a chance to go rep in a stadium they can't usually get tickets. So quit whining and go cheer the team on wherever they may go and against whomever they may play!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:42 p.m.

    Good luck Cougs. Any Bowl is a good bowl.

    Go get ‘em!

    Make the most of post season and let it be a spring board for the future

  • steve24/7 Sandy, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:41 p.m.

    Not a great bowl game or destination but it's a step in the right direction from last season. And it will help with recruiting to be able to say we got a bowl invite. Wyoming fans are ticked they didn't get this one and will not go bowling, but BYU gets more B.I.S. and eyes on sets and ESPN knows that.

    Now, Kalani, you gotta win this thing! Turn the offense loose and if you get a big lead don't try to sit on it and play not to lose. We're painfully aware of how that can turn out. The team loses momentum, energy, doesn't play with enough aggression, and then you lose.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:04 p.m.

    Current MWC bowls; the MWC doesn’t have a true pecking order after the Las Vegas. The bowl matchups are based on best possible games and geography.

    1. Las Vegas vs. Pac-12

    – Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs. MAC

    – Gildan New Mexico Bowl vs. Conference USA

    – Hawai’i Bowl vs. Conference USA

    – NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Sun Belt

    – Cheez-It Bowl

    When the new Las Vegas stadium is finished, the Las Vegas bowl will severe ties with the MWC.

    BYU fans advocating BYU’s return to the MWC should consider the above bowl lineup and the MWC’s pitiful television contract when claiming that Independence is a failure.

  • CougarForever Holladay, Utah
    Dec. 2, 2018 7:01 p.m.

    I suppose that we should be happy for any bowl game but I really was hoping to play TCU in the bowl played in Phoenix on Dec 26 which was among the predictions for us.

    We should get a good turnout given that we are talking about Boise, but I will have to do a lot of self-motivation to even consider attending this game. I would guess that we will beat a mediocre Western Michigan team but this game won't excite the BYU fan base much.

    Our in-state rivals did better in terms of bowls (in Utah's case way better, of course) -- justifiably so I must acknowledge. Utah State's game in Albuquerque against North Texas is a step up from our bowl and the Utes scored a great Holiday Bowl against Northwestern. I have to confess considerable jealousy.

  • blue & white Boise, ID
    Dec. 2, 2018 6:59 p.m.

    I’m so excited to my BYU football team play in Boise. I live here and have been to many potato bowls since the beginning. One year the temp was in the 50’s and hope it is on the 21st. It’s not one of the most exciting destinations on paper but a top 10 in the USA for retirement. It’s a great place to live with high quality life. Sounds like Western Michigan will be a good opponent who beat N. Illinois who almost beat Utah. Utah is not as good as they think they are even though it’s been 8 straight years and over 90% of the games in last 20 years have been decided by 8 points or less.
    Go Cougs

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 2, 2018 6:17 p.m.

    I love it! 15(?) extra practices to get ready for next year. Besides I can drive 15 minutes to the stadium. Let's be honest - the Potato Bowl is nothing to brag about, but the extra practices are worth it. I won't even go into my anti-Indie rant - others have picked up that baton for me.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 6:15 p.m.

    As a casual Ute fan I don’t see the point in putting BYU down by Ute fans.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 6:09 p.m.

    “Should be a good game considering we smoked Northern Illinois 2 weeks ago and you lost to them at home.”

    Smoked? By 1 TD? Huh?

    I’m as anti-byu as they come, but this appears to be an evenly matched contest.

    Go WMU!

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:52 p.m.

    Congrats, Coach Sitake. It’s a young team, and this year showed progress.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:46 p.m.

    In 2019 if BYU goes between 6-6 or 10-2 they are locked into the Hawaii bowl.
    Much better location (although obviously you have to fly there) than this year.

    However, the actual game probably will not be any better.
    This year it is Louisiana Tech vs Hawaii.

  • SUNNY ALL DAY St George, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:42 p.m.

    There was a time when a potato bowl would have been a destination for Ricks. Going forward appears to be going backward for BYU. W. Michigan will be a tough match-up for BYU. W. Michigan has everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose. W. Michigan is used to living, practicing and playing in the field/ weather conditions they will probably find in Boise. W. Michigan will be motivated to prove they belong on the same field as BYU. As for BYU, the game has all the makings of a quasi-trap game. BYU will be expected to defeat a MAC team convincingly on a neutral field. True, BYU is going bowling, however, I don't think the potato bowl in december was what the Cougars had in mind.

  • Caddis Terry, MT
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:36 p.m.

    A bowl game was my preseason hope. OK, It’s not the Cotton Bowl. But there is much to be glad about. A loss would be tough however...
    A ton of young players. Some measurable progress. A bowl game. Hope for the future. Go Cougs! I’m not unhappy.

  • MrDave2 Kapolei, HI
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:27 p.m.

    BYU fans. Remember when you all complained about what a terrible job Bronco Mendenhall was doing as head coach ?

    You cried and wined to AD Tom Holmoe that Mendenhall had to go.

    You wanted to bring back the Lavell Edwards winning ways. You wanted a coach that was true to BYU winning.

    Well you got him!!!

    BYU fans be prepared. They way BYU sports are being played they will soon be headed the way of Ricks College and BYU-Hawaii.

    Best of luck.

  • superdaveosborne Centerville, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:26 p.m.

    Woo sit outside in Boise ID in December for a few hours staring at a bright blue field. So exciting.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 5:00 p.m.

    the Wolverines will be a awesome matchup for us.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:59 p.m.

    BYU took a spot that should have gone to a MWC team and Wyoming was bowl eligible and left out. This pick absolutely stinks and reeks of nepotism.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:32 p.m.

    It’s curious why some fans are so anxious to see BYU return to the MWC, considering the bowls aligned with the MWC and where a mediocre Independent 6-6 BYU team is playing this season.

    How exactly will the MWC’s bowl tie-ins and their terrible television contract benefit BYU more than Independence?

    Don’t forget that as soon as the new Las Vegas stadium is finished, the Las Vegas Bowl will severe ties to the MWC.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:22 p.m.

    Current MWC Bowl Tie-ins

    1. Las Vegas vs. Pac-12

    – Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs. MAC

    – Gildan New Mexico Bowl vs. Conference USA

    – Hawai’i Bowl vs. Conference USA

    – NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Sun Belt

    – Cheez-It Bowl

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:18 p.m.

    The ID Potato Bowl.....Wow, just wow.....And to face yet another powerhouse MAC opponent.....Priceless.

    Bwhahahaha

    Go Utes!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:16 p.m.

    With the Las Vegas Bowl cutting ties with the MWC, won’t the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl be the MWC’s premiere bowl tie-in?

  • Hockey Fan Miles City, MT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:16 p.m.

    @ Hugh G. Hayter, re "Will they play to win?" My question exactly. Here's hoping they decide to play to win for 60 minutes instead of playing to win for just the first 30 minutes as they did against Utah.

    @ Who am I, sir?: Sad but true. I miss the old rivalries BYU had. I dislike their being an independent, and concur with some of the other comments that have been posted to that effect.

  • BlueWingedOlive , OR
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:15 p.m.

    Please put away the conference talk. Next year we get to play USC, Washington, Tennessee, and a few good G five teams like USF, Boise State, Utah State, and SDSU. That's a better schedule than any G5 can offer, even if we have a few duds in November. And as an independent we are $6-10M ahead of any conference affiliation. Until the corrupt NCAA goes away or unless ESPN takes over and runs things by the numbers (which would be good for BYU), this is life. If BYU wins games, bowls will get better.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:11 p.m.

    Let's try to be a little more happy for each other and the accomplishments we did achieve. No one rides the crest of the wave forever, so when it's your turn, be happy and don't kick those whose turn will come.

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:09 p.m.

    Hey, before anyone disparages going to the Potato Bowl... Remember, it's the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. 🥔🏟️

  • neglib Herriman, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:04 p.m.

    @ Real Ute

    Maybe you can buy 7 condos in Boise and rent them out to WM fans.

  • BYU Sports Nut Heber City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    I am super excited. This year I probably would not have been able to travel great distances to the game but Boise is doable! I think this is a very winnable game for BYU and with at 6-6 record, nothing to complain about.

  • MendonMick Mendon, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    Welcome to Idaho! Free Taters for outta Staters! Sure like them French fried taters, mmm hmmm.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    Thanks ESPN....For Nothing!

    To Paraphrase the Great Lavell.....

    "I'd rather lose and stay home in Provo than win and go bowling in Boise".

    "Boise is not the end of the earth, but you can see it from there".

    I'm all for putting on a happy face, but c'mon Holmoe, by anybody's standards...
    This stinks!

  • 8 in a row! Ogden, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:55 p.m.

    @ mightymite

    The Aggies from Logan wondered in the wilderness for more than 40 years having stints as an Independent and in the Sun Belt, PCAA, Big West and others. It will take the turnover of a few generations before Holmoe and company have a change in direction.

    The best thing that happened to Utah State was joining a regional conference (MWC).

    At least BYU doesn’t have to travel 2500 miles to the east coast again this season.

    Good luck in your bowl game cougars. The MAC has represented the potato bowl well.

  • FatMountainMan Tijeras, NM
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    @Real Ute:

    Even in their worst season in fifty years, BYU had more fans showing up, at home, than do your Utes. For 2017, BYU played 6 home games, with total attendance of 337,599 and an average attendance of 56,267. Utah with 7 home games? 321,390 total season attendance, and an average of only 45,913. Source: the NCAA -- http://fs.ncaa.org

  • BleedingBlue Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:50 p.m.

    The Cougars have struggled and spud-ered their way all year. Let’s see, $75 for tickets, $60 for gas, $150 for hotel room, $75 for food, $360+ to get cold and see them choke once more with a long drive home. Nope, a DVR, no lines at Outback and an empty theater night at the movies sounds a lot more fun. Besides, if by some miracle they actually show up, play, and win, well the DVR is cued and ready.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:49 p.m.

    mightymite- You reference the "progression of this program as an Indy, , ," Where do you see 'progress since independence? 'Regression' is a word you might want to think about using.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:48 p.m.

    It would be sad if it weren't so downright funny! LOL

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:47 p.m.

    Real Ute,
    Since you know so much about WMU, care to answer a few questions? What city is WMU located? What is their mascot? What conference do they belong to? Of course, you will know all the answers without looking it up! Peace and happy holidays!

  • Tarheel Ute Colorado Springs, CO
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:44 p.m.

    Tough game in the cold. I will be watching, rooting for BYU. Win and the Coogs have a winning season, and significant progress, with a bunch of youngsters. Looking forward to September in Provo.

  • Tilka Portland, OR
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:44 p.m.

    Really? There is nothing to gain here. A win is one against a pretty low level school and a loss is a disaster. The good news is they can bus to the game.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:43 p.m.

    Probably bottom of the barrel as bowl games go. But I guess beggars can’t be choosers... How the powers that be signed off on a bowl game in December in Idaho is beyond me. Seriously, what were they thinking?
    Western Michigan is a team that beat Northern Illinois an put up 44 points on a ranked Syracuse. This won’t be a pushover and in fact, BYU could lose this one.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:39 p.m.

    Louisiana Cougar - Pineville, LA
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:09 p.m.
    Many "boo birds" will criticize Coach Sitake and complain about the year.

    I congratulate the team for several big victories, a national ranking after knocking off the #6 ranked Wisconsin squad and the ranked Arizona football team, and several other good wins and close calls.

    -----

    The #6 team in the nation is Ohio.

    Arizona is 5-7. BYU is still looking for its FIRST PAC-12 win over a 6+ win team.

    Your biggest win was 20-0 at Utah, unfortunately Utah won the 2nd half 35-7.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:38 p.m.

    Utah in the Holiday Bowl as a Top 25 P5 program.

    BYU in the Idaho Potatoe Bowl as a G5 bottom feeder.

    Look on the bright side Cougar "fans", you beat Utah in the 1st half, your biggest win since 2012.

  • HoboA1 Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:33 p.m.

    Wow! BYU gets to go to a participation trophy bowl! What a powerhouse BYU is!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:30 p.m.

    The byu fans should give thanks to ESPN for finding them a home, better than they deserve, against a weak opponent whom they may be able to beat.

  • 96 U Flower Mound, TX
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:29 p.m.

    Too many fans had no respect for NIU. MAC teams are as good as BYU now.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:17 p.m.

    @mightymite

    "It is seriously time to take a hard look at the progression of this program as an Indy and where it fits in to a MWC, Sunbelt and so forth."

    Yeah, rejoin the MWC (if they'll even have you). In the MWC, you'll have the opportunity to go 10-2 and still end up in Albuquerque against a Directional Texas. I don't know if that or the Potato Bowl is worse!

    Bottom line is, if you're not a P5, you're getting table scraps no matter how good you are.

  • Whitey1980 Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:17 p.m.

    Fun!

    Boise is gorgeous this time of year!

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:15 p.m.

    Boise States Famous Potato Bowl.... that is what BYU got..... and is unfortunately about what BYU deserves. It will draw well.... but still. Thats a big fall from the other games BYU has played in... Oh well. Next year.....

  • V.A from Texas denton, TX
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:14 p.m.

    After last nights loss to Weber State now the Potato Bowl, girls volleyball is our only hope.

  • PacUtes Orange County, CA
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:12 p.m.

    Hey Utah fans...

    This bowl is "famous", alright?

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:09 p.m.

    Worst bowl game of any of the teams in state. Hands down.

    Got 'em again!

    LOL

  • Campbell53 Niles, MI
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:07 p.m.

    And I don't think 'low notch mid major' fits. We played in the Cotton Bowl 2 years ago and lost to Wisconsin by one touchdown. Should be a good game considering we smoked Northern Illinois 2 weeks ago and you lost to them at home.

  • Campbell53 Niles, MI
    Dec. 2, 2018 3:02 p.m.

    Western Michigan lost to Air Force in the 2014 Potato Bowl. We've been there before. Looking forward to the BYU matchup.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:45 p.m.

    How much are the tickets to the Potato Bowl? If they are over $5, Western Michigan will dominate the attendance. WMU does travel.

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:39 p.m.

    Once a proud program, but now happy to be in the Idaho potato bowl.

    My how things have changed!

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:39 p.m.

    Eight years of "independence" and here we are.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:09 p.m.

    Many "boo birds" will criticize Coach Sitake and complain about the year.

    I congratulate the team for several big victories, a national ranking after knocking off the #6 ranked Wisconsin squad and the ranked Arizona football team, and several other good wins and close calls.

    Yes . . . many "fans" are unhappy. I view this team as making good progress--especially in light of having several significant injuries to key players.

    I enjoyed the football team's effort, hurt when they hurt, and appreciated their wins. Thanks, everyone.

    LC

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:03 p.m.

    There are some LDS folks near Boise.........BYU may get a few fans to show up, finally!

  • Hugh G. Hayter Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2018 2:03 p.m.

    Will they play to win?

  • mightymite , 00
    Dec. 2, 2018 1:57 p.m.

    Oh wow Boise in December against a lower notch mid major. It is seriously time to take a hard look at the progression of this program as an Indy and where it fits in to a MWC, Sunbelt and so forth. This is not substainable! A Sunbelt conference title at least gives the kids something to compete for rather than a third/fourth or even no bowl game. Time to come to terms with this decision of independence.