Jay Evensen: Rep. Stewart hits a wrong note on journalist's murder

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  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2018 9:42 a.m.

    Of Course the kingdom order the assassination but, besides verbally denouncing the act What is America or the world to do about it? You can say, stop selling them military arms. OK that only hurts american workers and their families and besides Russia will happily take the Kingdoms order for billions of dollars and instead of the flying F-18 they are flying Russian made migs.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2018 8:34 a.m.

    So basically the right is saying we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

    It would be interesting to see whether they believe they can discipline their children for bad behavior and still maintain a positive relationship with them?

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 7, 2018 8:19 p.m.

    2 bits,

    I read your logic for attacking Iraq and based on that logic we should have attacked Saudi Arabia.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 7, 2018 12:34 p.m.

    @Prometheus 3:28
    RE: "Bush and the entire GOP thought it was a wonderful idea when he decided (Cheney) to attack Iraq, a nation which had not attacked us"...
    ---
    #1. They attacked us. Through surrogates (AlQaeda, Jihad, etc).

    They supported people attacking Americans. Iraq was funding and encouraging terrorists, AlQaeda, and other groups attacking Americans. Hussein offered to pay the family of anybody willing to blow themselves up to kill Americans or Jews $50,000. They funded and trained terrorists.

    #2 Cheney didn't decide, Congress did. Google "Iraq Resolution 2002 - Wikipedia"...

    Congress approved the resolution to take military action in Iraq, not Cheney. Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton vocally supported military action in Iraq. John Kerry voted to authorize the invasion. Cheney didn't get a vote.

    ===

    RE: "The GOP sure isn't the party of Christians anymore"...
    ---
    Well the Democratic party sure isn't. So what's the point?

    ===

    RE: "This is how cults are born"...
    ---
    Same could be said about Clinton supporters, or Bernie Sanders supporters. Or Obama supporters.

  • Lib Living on Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Dec. 7, 2018 12:20 p.m.

    Mick-

    “When they go low, we go high. But not really. You just name call”.

    Apparently it’s acceptable describing “libs” on this forum with the examples given. Mick. I believe anyone that defends trump is the absolute last person that should be lecturing anyone regarding what the former First Lady suggested to counter the Supreme Leader’s deplorable behavior and tactics.

    “I’ll bet your six year old nephew could teach you a lot”.

    You can be certain that my nephew realizes the difference between reality and the alternative universe the Supreme Leader’s sycophants reside. Furthermore. Although only 6 he certainly also realizes what an utter disaster trump has created from the onset. You’re welcome.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2018 11:23 a.m.

    @Iron Rod
    [When I tried to post that comment about all the brave journalists in Mexico who “disappeared”]

    Did they disappear because of government order or did they disappear because they're on dangerous assignments and a cartel or whatever got to them? It's a pretty important distinction.

  • Unreconstructed Reb BE, 00
    Dec. 7, 2018 9:50 a.m.

    Harrison,

    "Kashoggi was not an American. Yes he was a resident of America like he was a resident of Turkey and of many countries, it has no relevance."

    He had the same legal status as Trump's in-laws until they were naturalized a few months ago. Do you honestly think that if they'd gone to the Slovenian embassy and been dismembered, Trump would say it has no relevance.

    He also has children who are US citizens. Are they not entitled to wonder what their government will do about the murder of their father?

    He worked for a US company and paid taxes in this country. Is his American employer not entitled to answers from the president about one of its employees?

    The man went in to deal with some paperwork so he could get remarried and was murdered, and you guys seem to want to shrug it off because the ones who did it want to buy American weaponry to continue to bomb the stuffing out of the poorest country in the Middle East.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2018 9:18 a.m.

    From article : "But he was wrong to equate the deaths of many journalists worldwide - at the hands of … even murky government agents - with what happened to ...Khashoggi in Istanbul. But wasn't Kashoggi killed by murky government agents ? I needn't comment again on differences in cultures, but we send missionaries out to persuade people to upgrade their values. Wouldn't you know it : Proselytizing is forbidden in the Middle East, even in Israel. President Trump has expressed the United States' displeasure at the killing. The country in which this took place, Turkey, is the country responsible to take action.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 7, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    Oh no... the dreaded "Wrong" note!

    As if saying something that doesn't agree with a reporter's views or doesn't fit what the Political Correctness Police say is the "Right" thing to say... you hit the "Wrong" note.

    I'd rather him say what he thinks, rather than comply and say what the political correctness police in the press say is the "RIGHT" note.

    I'm OK with not blowing this up and ruining our ability to work with the Saudi's on anything happen in the middle-east (now or in the future).

    They have aided our military immensely in the conflicts we are dealing with in the middle-east.

    Google "Saudi Arabia–United States relations - WikiPedia"...

    The relationship didn't start with Trump. It started in 1945.

    We've had a military relationship with them for a long time. The US has been willing to overlook many of the kingdom's more controversial aspects for a long time. Even when Obama was in office.

    They are different than us. We know that. Our media was tolerant of that when Obama was Pres. And they did bad things then too.

    Trump didn't say "Murder is OK". He just didn't blow up the relationship. He ordered sanctions. Just not the "Right" sanctions (for some)

  • Mick , 00
    Dec. 6, 2018 6:08 p.m.

    Liberal-

    “When they go low, we go high.” But not really. You just name call.

    I’ll bet your six year old nephew could teach you a lot.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 6:07 p.m.

    @Jay: "ignoring a crime inevitably leads to more of it,"

    Which is exactly what many of us say about illegal immigration. But the DesNews editorial board seems to take a different position on that issue.

    Fact is, the US has been quietly ignoring lots of really bad crimes overseas for a very long time because we have no real choice. Saudi is no worse today than it was when Pres. Obama ignored their conduct toward journalists, women, homosexuals, etc. And the media let him do so. But the press won't let Pres Trump do likewise, so a bad statement is required.

    "we already have too many journalists dying because they just want to uncover the truth about power."

    We have too many women and children dying for far less serious reasons than that. Being a journalist is not any higher calling than being a mother, a Christian, or even being gay. No peacable person deserves murder. But the press needs to stop elevating itself. The presss has power too; sometimes misuses it.

    "important because President Trump has called the media an enemy of the people."

    No he didn't. But this kind of less-than-fully-accurate reporting is why he said what he did.

    Bearing false witness is unbecomming.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 4:22 p.m.

    FT: "I don't ever recall Obama defending any of the beheadings…"

    What you also don't recall is the press nagging Obama about it or trying to blame him for it. This is the whole point. The press is suddenly outraged by something they have ignored during previous administrations.

    This is Chris Stewart's point too. This literally happens all the time in many different countries and because the media hate Trump they are going to 1) try to blame him for something that isn't his fault and 2) try to force him to make a foreign policy blunder for which he legitimately could be blamed.

    They are counting on the presupposition that most Americans are so uniformed that they will think this is the first time for such an exceptional and horrible murder and Trump doesn't even care. The truth is, he is briefed about awful stuff like this on almost a daily basis.

    This one is also personal to the media because they considered Kashoggi one of their own. What a severe case of megalomania gets them to place where their lives are valued above all others. Kashoggi was not an American. Yes he was a resident of America like he was a resident of Turkey and of many countries, it has no relevance.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 3:28 p.m.

    What in Tucket said: "Becoming enemies of a nation that is fighting Iran is dumb."

    ..and yet Bush and the entire GOP thought it was a wonderful idea when he decided (Cheney) to attack Iraq, a nation which had not attacked us?

    The others continue to defend the indefensible, the GOP sure isn't the party of Christians anymore, it's the party of cash first, don't let some silly moral objection stop you from cashing in, unless theres a democrat involved then they are all about morals.

    Since trump began leading the GOP/Cons they have to keep changing their ideals to match his daily tweets, this is how cults are born.

  • Lib on Planet Zion Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 3:07 p.m.

    Bergeron -

    “While Obama was bowing to King Abdullah they were beheading dissidents in the palace courtyard. The Saudis are paying a higher price now than during any other administration”.

    Thank for unwillingly proving the point made earlier regarding the low information demographic. Apparently you’re unaware of George Bush Sr, Donald Rumsfeld and yes the Supreme Leader himself bowing to Saudi Kings! Furthermore. President Obama NEVER saluted North Korean Military Generals! You’re welcome. Your quest for legitimate sources of news should begin immediately.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 3:02 p.m.

    RE: "Rep. Stewart hits a wrong note"...
    ---
    So who decides what the right note is? Jay? Nancy Pelosi? Glenn Beck? Arianna Huffington?

    Is Jay the director? Does he tell the players in Congress what the right notes are, and they get called out for hitting a wrong note?

    I think the "wrong note" would be one that leads us to possible war or alienating what used to be one of our last Allies in the middle-east. A note that leads a friendly country (with flaws) to move away from us, and into the arms of Russia, or Syria.

    ===

    RE: "Because President Trump has called the media an enemy of the people"...
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    Actually, that's not quite true.

    Trump said, "About 80 percent of the media are the enemy of the people".

    He was later asked: “Is the press the enemy of the people”? Trump said, "No, not at all. But the fake news is".

    He never said everybody in the media Jay.

    Accuracy when quoting people please.

    Just sayin, if your a news editor... quote people correctly, and don't rephrase it to fit your presumptions.

    ===

    RE: "Sending the message that quashing dissent and criticism through murder is OK"...
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    I've never seen him say that murder was OK. Have you?

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 2:52 p.m.

    Re: ". . . the U.S. cannot afford to send the message that quashing dissent and criticism through murder is OK."

    That clearly and definitively is NOT, of course, the message the US sent Saudi Arabia.

    First-off -- murder is always bad. Real bad. Government-sponsored murder is always worse. The worst you can get. Murder of a journalist is not, however, worse than murder of a child, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister. It's the same. Its value is the same. Its effects are the same. Its tragedy is the same. Regardless of how loudly journalists may howl their self-serving mantra to the contrary.

    The message sent to Saudi royals, from day one, has been that this is bad and won't be condoned, hence the flurry of indictments directed at underling thugs, but not the most senior government officials.

    But, we should keep in mind that America did even less when our then-Secretary of State was caught in a Uriah-the-Hittite-type murder of our Libyan ambassador and 4 State Department security personnel.

    Should we expect our allies to demand the blood of high officials, the way we're doing to the Saudis? 5 times the blood, perhaps?

  • Silvex Salt Lake, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 2:40 p.m.

    Jay, if we cross them off our allies list and put them on our naughty list, will they adopt our "bedrock principles of liberty?" How much does Iran care when we complain about them killing their citizens?

    And this isn't like "unfriending" someone on facebook. We have a lot to lose here.

    Do you think we didn't know who Stalin was when we allied with him to defeat Hitler?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 2:37 p.m.

    @Harrison
    "While Obama was bowing to King Abdullah they were beheading dissidents in the palace courtyard. The Saudis are paying a higher price now than during any other administration."
    I don't ever recall Obama defending any of the beheadings or saying, "maybe they were or maybe they werent." I also don't recall any of these beheadings being American residents.
    The whole world saw an American President defending MSB all while our intelligent agencies said he played a role in his murder.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 2:18 p.m.

    Having to say the representative from my district is stewart was one of the main considerations of my screen name.

    Wonder how he'd feel if any in his family were journalists searching for truth in the time of trump, putin and prince whoever?

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 1:39 p.m.

    Mickey Mouse , 00
    Dec. 6, 2018 12:26 p.m.

    “No one is defending Trump. We are just wondering why there are two different levels of justice. You turn a blind eye to what happened for 8 long years and now all of the sudden you’re concerned about justice”.

    You better read and thoroughly comprehend the comments if you truly believe “no one is defending trump” in this article. Also. Thank you for unwillingly proving my point regarding the Supreme Leader’s low information, sycophants that are clearly unable to defend him without the mention of President Obama, HRC and or Benghazi!

    “When it comes to liberals from different planets justice is definitely NOT blind”.

    Have absolutely no idea the meaning or inference of this comment. I’ll make certain to ask my 6 year old nephew to decipher.

    “And how does the name calling get past the moderators”? 😢

    Unaware of any name calling. Simply stated HRC’s thoughts and I most definitely agree! On this forum liberals have been labeled as...

    “Leftists”
    “Commies”
    “Violent antifa thugs”
    “Handout seekers”
    “Snowflakes”
    “Etc”

    That’s not even close to what is stated about President Obama. Pot meet kettle!

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 1:28 p.m.

    @ FT

    This has very little to do with Trump. Saudi Arabia has been murdering its dissidents since Muhammad bin Saud allied with Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. While Obama was bowing to King Abdullah they were beheading dissidents in the palace courtyard. The Saudis are paying a higher price now than during any other administration.

  • Wasatch Al South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 12:33 p.m.

    I'm glad to see the Deseret News finally reporting on and commenting about this issue. Our Utah representatives have done little to challenge Trump on his constant attack on the Freedom of the Press, but I can't believe that Rep. Stewart would jump in to defend Trump on one of his most misguided efforts to serve as President of the United States.

    I wonder if it had been a U.S. politician who had been murdered by order of the Saudi prince. Would Rep. Hansen would still be so callous and supportive?

  • Occidental Observer Orem, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 12:29 p.m.

    Would he be so disdainful of the lives of former Congressmen?

    Some folk insist Wayne Owens was assassinated on a trip to Israel.

    Perhaps Congressman Stewart is wary of crossing those who hold real power.

  • Mick , 00
    Dec. 6, 2018 12:26 p.m.

    Liberal from a different planet-

    No one is defending Trump. We are just wondering why there are two different levels of justice. You turn a blind eye to what happened for 8 long years and now all of the sudden you’re concerned about justice.

    When it comes to liberals from different planets justice is definitely NOT blind.

    And how does the name calling get past the moderators?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 12:20 p.m.

    @Harrison
    "Americans will pay the price if Saudi Arabia aligns with Russia"
    I guess even a high five between the country's leaders last week hasn't convinced you yet that they aren't already are aligned on many things? They and the rest of the world are laughing and conspiring behind Trump's back. The world is a much dangerous place now because we have an immoral, uninformed President watching TV in the White House.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 11:54 a.m.

    "The United States weakens its strength abroad if it tacitly accepts a blatant violation of one of it own bedrock principles of liberty..."

    If we held the rest of the world to our standards as a measure for forming alliances we would could count our allies on one hand. Even the UK has jailed a journalist for reporting on issues the government does not like. Turkey is just as bad as Saudi Arabia. And so is Egypt, Pakistan, Albania, Azernaijan, Bahrain, Bangledesh, etc., etc.

    "…ignoring a crime inevitably leads to more of it…"

    So true. But we have to decided if we are the planet's policemen or not. As a general rule we have drawn the line at US national interests and large scale human suffering. If we are going to go to the mat every time one of these Islamic countries murders one of its dissidents, it will be a full time job. What do we do, conquer them all and convert them to Christianity?

    And we aren't ignoring it. Saudi Arabia has already paid more dearly than any of these other countries have and they will continue to pay the price. But there is no reason Americans should pay the price. And Americans will pay the price if Saudi Arabia aligns with Russia or China.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 11:52 a.m.

    Richards -
    “The problem is far larger than the death of a journalist. Weren't four American citizens killed in Benghazi? Didn't the Obama Administration tell us that those deaths were the result of a video? Was that the truth”?

    Tucket-
    “I would prefer this hadn't happened, but I would like to retain friendship and cooperation with Saudi Arabia. Moreover in past administrations such events were often ignored, but since it is Trump they have to make a big deal out of it”.

    The deplorable faction once again proves HRC’s comment was 100% accurate! How absolutely nauseating comrades. Continued defense of the clearly indefensible. All in the name of liberal hatred! The Supreme Leader’s low information sycophants are clearly unable to defend him without the mention of President Obama, HRC and or Benghazi. Furthermore. Could not imagine the faux outrage if the Obama administration was facing the glut of indictments, {and guilty pleas} the current administration is daily. Country before party comrades!

  • Unreconstructed Reb BE, 00
    Dec. 6, 2018 11:37 a.m.

    Mike Richards goes to back to the Benghazi well. Has he ever spoken with someone who was there? I have, and to a man (and one woman) they acknowledge that they understood the risks, they knew the cavalry wasn't going to bail them out, and they accepted that.

    A video, you cry? Yes, in the early confusion about what was happening, some thought it was related to protests over an anti-Islamic video. I empathize. I was one of those people watching the protests out of concern for friends stationed in the Muslim world. So yes, my immediate thought was that the protests got out of control, before anyone in the administration made the claim. It only became clear later that what happened was a planned assault.

    Here's the key difference with what's happening now. Our understanding of Saudi culpability has grown stronger and stronger, yet in the face of all the evidence, Trump has no interest in responding. That's not even close to being the same as the fog of war in Benghazi. Khashoggi was murdered in cold blood in a premeditated act by an ally. And we deserve to know whether Trump's personal connections to MBS are why he's covering for him. Shame on Stewart.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 10:39 a.m.

    Stewart, an ex-military man, is proving to be anything but a patriot. He is a Trump supporter first, a Republican second and an American, third. I can't believe he represents our state.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 10:18 a.m.

    Becoming enemies of a nation that is fighting Iran is dumb. Iran may well have a nuclear weapon soon and drop it on Israel. That would mean hundreds of thousands or more dead. Better to work with Saudi Arabia the best we can. Besides the so called journalist is known to be member of the Muslim Brotherhood. He did contribute a few pieces to the Wa Post, but he is not a friend of Saudi Arabia.
    I would prefer this hadn't happened, but I would like to retain friendship and cooperation with Saudi Arabia. Moreover in past administrations such events were often ignored, but since it is Trump they have to make a big deal out of it.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:51 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    When you lay with dogs, you get fleas. Lets us not forget Saudi Arabians were the master minds behind 9/11 and also fund terrorism all around the globe. Now their leader, enabled by Trump, openly murders an American resident and journalist and we should not publicly be appalled? Sorry, I applaud some of our Senators who are standing up for something bigger than geopolitics and a few bucks for defense contractors.

  • Spangs Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:50 a.m.

    Kudos to Jay Evensen for the backbone to call a spade a spade.

    Parts of me are and aren't surprised at the demonstration of moral relativism of Rep. Chris Stewart, but I am disappointed nonetheless. At times, Rep. Stewart appears to be what we would all aspire to be: a man with integrity, thoughtfulness, and a sound moral compass. Certainly someone who deserves to represent us.

    But Rep. Stewart can't and shouldn't have it both ways. He has the obligation to the people of Utah to demand that we live, act, and fight for what is right. Even if it goes against our perceived national security interest, our economic interest, our political party, or our president. I know Rep. Stewart is capable and deep-down knows what is right. He just needs to courage to make that his mission.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:41 a.m.

    The problem is far larger than the death of a journalist. Weren't four American citizens killed in Benghazi? Didn't the Obama Administration tell us that those deaths were the result of a video? Was that the truth?

    If the media is to be believed, then it must report all of the facts, not just those facts that an administration wants published.

    Certainly, the death of Jamal Khashoggi is serious, but so is the murder of any person anywhere in the world. We must never, ever, give special right to life to anyone, regardless of their chosen profession. Murder is murder. Those who murder must be exposed, particularly those inside the United States.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, WA
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:35 a.m.

    Jay Evensen: Rep. Stewart hits a wrong note on journalist's murder

    I must say,
    I have to commend Jay Evensen for even mentioning hidden in this morning's editorial section and a full 2 days later -

    seeing that the Deseret News was the ONLY news outlet in all of America that did not cover Chris Stewart's ridiculous interview on National Television.

    Bias?
    absolutely

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:19 a.m.

    Says Chris Stewart “As the leader of the free world, we have to accomplish two goals; defend human rights while also attempting to maintain important relationships with key allies that we hope will help us bring stability to critical parts of the world. We should always strive to do both.”

    Actually the U.S. has mostly defended U.S. capital first and foremost around the world (look at what happened to Allende), caring little for human rights. With Trump this is right out in the open at least.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:16 a.m.

    In my opinion when people are unconcerned with the murder or disappearance of journalists it is an sign of a “Failed State”

    When I tried to post that comment about all the brave journalists in Mexico who “disappeared” the response was “your comment has been placed on hold” or “your comment will be forwarded to the appropriate parties”

    When the double standard strikes close to home it is a different story.

    I do not expect this to be published I just wanted to illustrate the double standard

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:12 a.m.

    The story contains the core of the problem:
    "The answer we got was simple. The United States has to deal with the world as it finds it, not wait to form alliances until other nations conform to our ideals."

    Middle east governments are not western democracies with leaders embracing traditional Judaeo-Christian values and ethics. They are countries with a culture of violence totally beyond our understanding- cutting hand off for theft, stoning adultresses, blaming rape victims, etc.

    The devil we know may be far better than the one we do not know. The power struggles in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia include numerous rivals as thuggish and despicable as the current ruler (MbS), but none with any inclination to be "kinder and gentler."

    We are better off supporting (or at least tolerating with benign neglect) MbS and his cracking down on Wahabbist Jihad against the west than ousting him and ending up with Muslim Brotherhood factions determined to subjugate the west as part of an Islamic caliphate.

    It's different over there, like it or not. Don't cut off our nose to spite our face.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:02 a.m.

    Did the "good" people of Utah really elect this guy? Wow - that's embarrassing.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    As Mr. Evensen notes, there is a tiny kernel of truth in Rep. Stewart's remarks, namely that we (the nation) deal with bad actors and have to have functional relationships with them. However, Rep. Stewart's tone was so cavalier and dismissive as to be callous. To lump murders of journalists in Mexico, largely by nonstate criminal cartels, with murders by state actors is so offpoint it is ridiculous. And while we're dissing China and Turkey and Saudi Arabia for their records on the subject, let's not forget Russia, which has a long list of journalists who met suspicious untimely ends.

    Rep. Stewart, as a former military man, surely is aware that soldiers die all over the world. Yet if an American GI were murdered by a foreign government in a premeditated act, he would be the first to scream for consequences.

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 8:40 a.m.

    Jay, you are absolutely right on this one. Stewart missed it. We should hold him accountable for his apparently nonchalant response.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    Stewart and many in his party criticized Obama for bowing to the Saudi leader and now they excuse Trump for coddling and apologizing for a murderer of an American resident who was lawfully employed by the Washington Post? America is at a new low and getting lower every day under our current leadership and the sycophants that keep him in power.

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Dec. 6, 2018 8:36 a.m.

    Rep. stewart really dropped the ball on this one.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2018 8:35 a.m.

    Stewart is so out of touch and so in the pocket of Trump that his sense of morality has been deadened. What is wrong with him?