Why does Bob Woodward want to talk about Watergate with Elder D. Todd Christofferson?

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  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 10:12 a.m.

    This dialog is pretty useless without a focus on the threat posed by Donald Trump, an instantiation of fascism.

  • TWhit Longwood, FL
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:15 p.m.

    Can we finally get over this story? What is happening today makes Watergate look like a walk in the park - yet the mainstream media (including Woodward) are strangely silent now. Governments and the gutless politicians therein will always lie, deceive, cheat and ignore what is best for the majority of the American people. The Founders had an underlying mistrust of a central government - and rightly so as we see today. These are the same people who want to take our guns away and control our health care? I'm not betting my life on these folks!

  • Marigold Provo, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 2:30 p.m.

    I see another Woodward book on the horizon.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 12:47 p.m.

    The crimes of Nixon involving Watergate pales in comparison to what is happening this very moment with Donald Trump....

  • rdk36532 , 00
    Jan. 14, 2019 11:10 a.m.

    So, exactly why did Bob Woodward want to proceed with the conversation? Is he reviewing history and making corrections to his opinions?

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Jan. 13, 2019 7:13 p.m.

    @Marxist : "
    My pointing out Trump's Great Birther Lie (GBL) is no innuendo. Please explain your ignoring of GBL."

    There simply was no "birther lie". Obama had an absentee, non-citizen, father and spent his early years in Indonesia. It was very reasonable to ask to see his birth certificate. Obama delayed release and played the race card, acting like it was racism to even be asked. But it was based on the facts of his complicated hisyoty; not race at all.
    Ironically, when he finally did release his birth certificate, it was Trump who publicly acknowledged it and said the question was now answered. Trump actually ended the birther "question". There was never any "lie".

    All this can easily be corroborated by internet history of what Trump actually said; not the straw-man versions written by "pundits".

  • American First Merced, CA
    Jan. 12, 2019 9:46 a.m.

    @illuminated
    True statement, unfortunately the brethren of the Church silence about an evil coup attempt by corrupt anti-American politicians to overturn an election is deafening. They should identify evil when it exists otherwise the members of the Church remain in a divided state of opinions, quareling amongst each other. It’s time for them to take a stand against the terrible revolution taking place in this country.

  • illuminated Kansas City, MO
    Jan. 12, 2019 6:52 a.m.

    After the chief priests tried to tempt Jesus into making a political statement, Jesus cleverly responded, "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.".  Later, when Herod tried to goad Jesus into making a political statment, Jesus "answered him nothing."

    I think as representatives of the Lord, the brethren should be very careful to not appear to take political sides or make political statements.  In light of our political climate, where many on one side of the political spectrum are relating our current President's action to Watergate, there needs to be care taken to not appear to be taking a side.  Especially when the investigation is incomplete, and there is yet to be found any substantial evidence to support such claims.  Add to the fact that Bob Woodward has said some very disparaging things about President Trump, this screams political bias to me.

    Brother Christofferson, you have now devoted your life to the Lord's work.  Let's stick to teaching His saving principles, not the Washington Post's political agenda.

  • Mary Jo Mapleton, UT
    Jan. 12, 2019 6:10 a.m.

    A close relative of mine worked for a U S Senator before Richard Nixon was president and told me that everything was and was considered “bugged” and that devices were found all the time. I have been waiting all these years to hear about the criminal investigations, charges and convictions relating to those crimes and many sorts of others consistently committed by government officials.. Public opinion - point, aim, fire.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:31 p.m.

    @RiDal "But we all know that, to this point, it is all just vague innuendo, straw-man arguments, and wishful thinking from the Left. "

    My pointing out Trump's Great Birther Lie (GBL) is no innuendo. Please explain your ignoring of GBL.

  • American First Merced, CA
    Jan. 11, 2019 4:57 p.m.

    Watergate is insignificant by todays standards and no longer relevant. A simple plan to spy on political opponents, Republicans got caught and the President covered it up to protect the party. Compare that to a political party taking campaign money, resources, political favors from enemies of the United States then casting those sins onto a newly elected President and using partisan operatives in the Department of Justice to conjure a false investigation as means to overturn an election is the Highest possible form of Treason against the people of the United States.

  • DonBeto Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 11, 2019 2:00 p.m.

    Watergate shook the country; it should be examined continually. But, to think that this is simply a look by Woodward to know of Sirica's response to the tapes is naÏve. Woodward, along with the mainstream media, want to destroy Trump. Any parallels Woodward can draw to Nixon and Trump is his overarching goal. Love or hate Trump, that's not the question, it's Woodward's seemingly innocent desire about Sirica's response that masks his hidden agenda with this interview.
    In this political climate, honesty and fairness is an ACCEPTABLE LOSS by The Press because they find Trump so odious and that he is so at odds with their own political views.

    But when reporters betray the ethics of their profession, that of not putting their finger on the scales when they report a story, they also betray the American people.

  • mohokat , 00
    Jan. 11, 2019 9:12 a.m.

    Woodward just trying to stay relevant.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 7:10 a.m.

    Note that in Watergate, there was a real crime that was being investigated.
    The Mueller team is simply **looking for a crime**. Huge difference.

  • brenjon Rexburg, ID
    Jan. 10, 2019 8:57 p.m.

    buckfishing: How are we sure that Trump is not part of the swamp?

    Seriously, I am disturbed by the common practice of every recent president not to enforce laws congress has passed, but instead, to issue executive orders if congress doesn't do his bidding. Multiple examples from the last two presidents, and from others before them as well.

  • Holy-Schamoly-What Baloney Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 6:13 p.m.

    I had a neighbor who claimed Nixon was given the shaft, too, but I guess he didn't realize that Dick Nixon used the FBI, the CIA, the IRS and other federal agencies to harass private citizens, just because they were his personal political enemies. And when he resigned he stated he had "lost his political base" and so that's why he quit. The country was much better off without him, believe me! I didn't think we could ever have a worse president than Lyndon Johnson, then we got Nixon. And a few since then have been worse than that.....

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 5:52 p.m.

    A fascinating read. A few thoughts:

    1-One more example that leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ are far more experienced and in touch than many give credit.

    2-I honestly wonder whether the Watergate break in and coverup are rare, or common in terms of integrity and honesty. Post Watergate we have had Iran-Contra and Bill's perjury. Long before Watergate, we had LBJ's and JFK's rampant adultery. There was also FDR's long running affair and his active concealing of his health problems from the American public. While these earlier lies were not criminal, they certainly show a lack of integrity and honesty among our highest elected officials going back quite a way.

    3-What about the media? Whether the media was merely ignorant of infidelity, too delicate to discuss it, or willfully helped conceal it can be debated. No debate the media actively helped FDR conceal his health problems, then actively questioned Reagan's health. Merely a change in times? Or, partisan favortism?

    History shows powerful men often do ill. The media holds itself out as our watchdog. What do we do when the media is, instead, powerful men showing overt partisanship helping certain men hide their sins?

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 5:43 p.m.

    Integrity and Trust, What we can learn from Watergate. Personally I think this gathering in Washington DC is the wrong event in the wrong place. Most people want integrity and Trust but in the hyper polarized environment having this conference is the wrong thing. It will just give more fodder for either side.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 5:25 p.m.

    Nixon took zero money from my pocket, and many justices on the Supreme Court in the last 10 years, have tried to do just that with attacking capitalism. Worse things going on in 21st century. Let us forgive what happened in early the 1970's and move on.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 5:10 p.m.

    I remember the impact on the military classification system in Europe in 1971-1972 due to Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers. That timeframe and tapes were related to the mental status of President Nixon when his administration was trying to show Ellsberg’s mental status.

    The break-in was not known to Ellsberg or to the public until it came to light during Ellsberg and Russo's trial in April 1973.

    However, this some of the tape in the Oval Office that wasn’t granted Executive Privilege status.

    “To the ordinary guy, all this is a bunch of gobbledygook. But out of the gobbledygook comes a very clear thing.... You can't trust the government; you can't believe what they say; and you can't rely on their judgment; and the – the implicit infallibility of presidents, which has been an accepted thing in America, is badly hurt by this, because It shows that people do things the president wants to do even though it's wrong, and the president can be wrong.”

    President Nixon’s comments in the Oval Office are telling as he talks with his Chief-of-Staff.

    People need to realize history repeats itself.

  • buckfishing PROVO, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 4:37 p.m.

    Nixon was definitely the fall guy, but there were a lot more guilty politicians, etc. . . . Do you own research on this. Watergate was just the tip of the ice berg and the crimes that were not exposed would make anyone cringe. Trump is draining the swamp and hopefully he can get it done sooner than later.

  • Palmetto Bug Columbia, SC
    Jan. 10, 2019 4:13 p.m.

    Nixon's standing was deteriorating in 1972 but it wasn't until the tapes were discovered and the transcripts released that his presidency was doomed. It's entirely possible that Nixon could have survived Watergate had those tapes not been discovered.
    This is why it's important to allow investigations to run their course. It's entirely possible that President Trump has done nothing worthy of impeachment. As of right now, there are no smoking guns that implicate Trump in major illegal activities and such evidence may never materialize (either because the evidence doesn't exist or because Trump hasn't committed major crimes). But if we don't allow the special prosecutor to conduct a thorough investigation we may never know if such evidence exists or not. Similar special investigations typically take 4-5 years (and up to 8 years) and Mueller's investigation isn't even two years old. We could be waiting for another few years before knowing what Mueller discovered and that's okay. Let justice run its course.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2019 3:15 p.m.

    I knew Nixon was a crook from June 1972 when I first heard about the break-in at Watergate. It sounded just like the sort of thing he would do.

  • joanzone42 Orem, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2019 3:08 p.m.

    As someone who voted for Nixon and watched nearly every day of the hearings, I can say that virtually everyone initially thought he was innocent. Even when things began to unravel in his story, it was hard to believe that our President could stoop so low. Bob Woodward has been a respected journalist for all these years and, along with Elder Christofferson, is able to provide valuable understanding and insight... especially for those who were too young (or not born yet) during that tumultuous time. It should be a lesson to all of us that history can...and usually does... repeat itself.

  • batfink Australia, 00
    Jan. 10, 2019 2:49 p.m.

    Hmm, might be interesting to hear what Elder Christofferson says during the event.

    I read that stocks fell 14% in one month during Watergate... and I've also been listening to some rogue economists who claim that either the failure to get a Brexit deal for the UK with Europe or a Trump impeachment will trigger a global economic meltdown that will snowball during 2019 and spread like a contagion.

    Of course truth must come before stock prices and housing foreclosures.

    I just want to be warned, with something like an economic weather forecast.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 2:24 p.m.

    The Liberal-Left is desperate to create a Watergate-like scenario with Trump.
    Woodward is hawking books, and his lifetime claim-to-fame is the Watergate investigation.
    If there were any evidence that Trump had committed a crime, I would be the first to call for prosecution. But we all know that, to this point, it is all just vague innuendo, straw-man arguments, and wishful thinking from the Left.
    When the investigation goes from "the allegations of Russian collusion" to "let's just find anything about Trump that we can claim is a crime", you know it really is just a witch hunt.

  • Kelly Knight Orem, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    In light of current allegations that Trump was/is involved in something far more nefarious than Watergate, it's useful to put things in context by having a conversation with one of two people to originally hear the tapes. Those tapes were the smoking gun that brought down Nixon, and so to understand that in juxtaposition with the seeming lack of evidence of the same caliber against Trump is timely.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 1:21 p.m.

    What? wrj Sandy UT, 11:21 am, no this is about history. Important history we must not allow to happen again.

    To say: "Well it’s easy to figure this out, Bob Woodward is a far left liberal, and Elder Christofferson Embraces social justice." is Ludacris. This article and the information therein has absolutely nothing to do with political leanings of those who sough to correct wrongs in our government. It had everything to do with a Whitehouse steeped in criminal behavior.

    For the Watergate crimes and obstruction of justice President Nixon would have been impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate had he not resigned and been pardoned.

    If not for connections that protected other persons involved, others would have gone to prison too. Even a Utah favorite son.

  • The-Antidote Highland, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 1:16 p.m.

    Probably to sell his book.

  • Mind Baggage Bentonville, AR
    Jan. 10, 2019 12:44 p.m.

    Does anyone have a dead horse I can kick?

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Jan. 10, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    Easy to figure this out - Bob Woodward was in pursuit of the truth, and Elder Christofferson just endorsed his efforts in the Watergate scandal. My grandmother went to her grave insisting that Nixon was framed.

  • wrj SANDY, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 11:21 a.m.

    Well it’s easy to figure this out, Bob Woodward is a far left liberal, and Elder Christofferson Embraces social justice.