Utah House passes replacement for voter-approved Medicaid expansion amid protests

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  • just one voice Highland, UT
    Feb. 11, 2019 8:42 p.m.

    Did 51% of all Utahans vote for the Medicaid expansion? No.

    Do we now get to force doctors to see Medicaid patients?

  • Kug Big Arm, MT
    Feb. 11, 2019 7:31 p.m.

    People have to remember in this country we elect legislators to represent us. If we don't like what they did then vote them out but that is how the process works. Utah is in a dangerous position and the lawmakers apparently know that. If 'we the people' are able to vote in our own benefits and get away with it ... it's a nail in the coffin of democracy. It would be like what Congress can do now.

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Feb. 11, 2019 9:25 a.m.

    @ just one voice - Highland, UT
    "And a majority of Utah voters DID NOT vote for Prop 3. "
    Then why are we having this disussion?

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Feb. 11, 2019 8:23 a.m.

    Some view this vote as a stab in the back of the voters in Utah. I see this vote as the Legislators stabbing themselvs in their back(s). When they bleed out the voters will be the real winners.

  • massmanute Riverton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2019 7:38 p.m.

    I see two things that should be done now, not just one, but both. 1) Vote the Rascals out in the next election. 2) Put another initiative on the ballot for full medicaid expansion.

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2019 3:46 p.m.

    @just one voice
    I worked in ER’s for several years and I can tell you that is simply not accurate, but for the sake of argument let’s assume it was, it would still be more the fiscally resonsable thing to do to make it easier for people with Medicaid to get appointments with primary care doctors by making it easier for doctors to get properly paid rather then throw up our hands and walk away. I am a professional provider and work everyday with people that have private insurance and Medicaid. We don’t turn anyone away because of insurance however getting Medicaid to pay cost a lot of extra man hours due to the needless redtap because of people that are so afraid that someone else is going to get something they don’t.

  • just one voice Highland, UT
    Feb. 10, 2019 12:49 p.m.

    Tostoy: a recent comment on another thread was by a doctor with knowledge of the ER situation. He said people on Medicaid continue to use the ER at higher rates than those on insurance plans because it's easier than making an appointment and waiting.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2019 12:15 p.m.

    At times I seem to have a problem getting my views posted.

    So here are other people’s views which I agree with

    “Am I my brothers keeper?”

    “The parable of the Good Samaritan”

    “If you don’t want your tax dollars to help the poor, then stop saying
    You want a country based on Christian values. Because you don’t”
    Jimmy Carter

    Amen

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 11:40 p.m.

    @just one voice
    Since you appear to believe we are not already paying for uninsured people’s medical care perhaps you would not mind actually responding to my Feb. 8, 2019 5:17 p.m post no one else that apposes medical expansion seems to want to answer those questions.

    “a majority of Utah voters DID NOT vote for Prop 3. Only a slight majority of those who actually voted approved it.” given our last presidential election do you really want to pull on that thread?

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 9:05 p.m.

    what is the point of voting? the bills we pass are changed by the legislature, or overturned by 9 people that were never elected.

  • just one voice Highland, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 8:12 p.m.

    No one has mentioned that now "they" want thousands of kids in the schools who need mental health care to be able to bill Medicaid for that care through the schools. (Deseret News article) And a majority of Utah voters DID NOT vote for Prop 3. Only a slight majority of those who actually voted approved it. And no one is stopping those who want to pay for someone else's health care from starting a registry of those in need - kind of like Go Fund Me. Get out YOUR checkbooks!

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 4:17 p.m.

    @eigerjoe
    "Prop 3 supporters - what current state services you are willing to reduce in exchange for the fully expanded Medicaid that you are seeking? "

    None, because we have a large surplus. We can easily use a tiny piece of that for the next year or two, in the meantime we can determine whether the federal government would allow the expanded levels of support for a smaller expansion and then depending on that determination a ballot measure can be crafted where one of the options is to keep the full expansion but increase the sales tax another 0.1% or whatever it would be.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    "Nothing is 'FREE' someone has to pay ."

    And we have already paid to the tune of hundreds of millions in surplus! Use that money to actualize the voice of the people!

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 1:29 p.m.

    @christoph
    The rules of math says it is fiscally illresponsable for us to be paying for people to get basic healthcare through the ER as we are currently doing when it will be much cheaper for us to ensure they have access for such care through much cheaper doctors office visit. The letter writer is correct, the residence to expansion is not about the math.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 11:08 a.m.

    Maybe instead of a 225 million dollar tax cut that will undoubtedly benefit the wealthy the most we could spend the money on education and the Medicaid expansion.

  • cl_rand North Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 9:34 a.m.

    Hmm, there is a 1 billion dollars surplus in the coffers but the 15 million it would cost for medicaid expansion is going to break the bank? Now tell me again about the laws of math christoph? Are they different in Brigham City?

  • peabody Steamboat Springs, CO
    Feb. 9, 2019 9:14 a.m.

    So much for the will of the people ?

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 9:19 a.m.

    Voters cannot overrule laws of math. People like Putin of Russia and Maduro of Venezuela have to submit to economics.

  • eigerjoe Sandy, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 9:18 a.m.

    Prop 3 supporters - what current state services you are willing to reduce in exchange for the fully expanded Medicaid that you are seeking? Are you willing to decrease funding for education, air quality, transportation, public safety, or environmental causes in order to fund fully expanded medicaid? We can't have everything. Our legislators have tried to give you most of what you are seeking without raising taxes or taking money from other services. We (and they) have to decide what things are most important to us and give up things that are less important. Tell me what you are willing to sacrifice for fully expanded medicaid?

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 8:16 a.m.

    DN Subscriber - Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 10:47 p.m.
    It is obvious that "free stuff" appeals to many Utah voters who do not understand (or maybe just don't care) that someone has to pay for all that, and our state has to have a balanced budget, unlike the profligate spenders in Washington.
    =====

    I would much rather see ordinary Utah citizens who need some help with health care receiving "free stuff" than seeing various corporations like Energy Solutions which just had a $1.7 million tax break renewed very quietly in a back room deal in the Utah Capitol.

    The Tribune reported this : "While Gov. Gary Herbert repeatedly calls for axing the long list of tax breaks that the state gives to a variety of industries, the Utah House voted Monday to give a $1.72 million annual fee break to the EnergySolutions radioactive waste company.
    That brought protests from one environmental group and many House Democrats, but GOP supporters said EnergySolutions needs that help to survive in an industry that is becoming more competitive."

    Check out how much money E S has given to GOP campaigns . . . .

  • Flipphone , 00
    Feb. 9, 2019 8:12 a.m.

    Nothing is "FREE" someone has to pay .

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Feb. 9, 2019 7:38 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    "We are on the way to becoming another California, which is on its way to becoming another Venezuela"
    I notice that Utah real estate prices are also rising, at a similar rate to California's. That does nothing to help the poor either. As the gap widens between the haves and the have nots, this will continue.

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 7:35 a.m.

    Why is it that in Utah an insurance executive, Jim Dunnigan ,sponsors an insurance bill and a fishing guide sponsors a fishing bill? Couldn't they make it less obvious to prevent critics from claiming inside favoritism ? Answer, this is Utah where even transparency is subject to institutional obedience and the Legislators don't really care what the public wants.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 7:21 a.m.

    @dn subscriber
    You dont think we are already paying for that “free stuff” at a much higher rate (fiscally illresponsable) already? Maybe you would like to answer my earlier post?

  • cl_rand North Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 7:00 a.m.

    So where were the religious representatives from the church that claims it only gets involved when moral issues are at stake? Oh, I forgot, they were on the house floor voting down the voter approved medicaid expansion for the poorest among us. Nice!

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 6:33 a.m.

    I for one am willing to pay more in taxes to take care of the medical needs of my less fortunate brothers and sisters here in Utah.

    I have been “Blessed” and I am willing to share my abundance.

    Just call me a “Modern Day Good Samaritan” not like the others who pass by the injured traveler and ignore his plight.

    I call upon others to adopt this practice both individually and governmental wise.

  • dkgriff Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 2:29 a.m.

    Great thread. Complete with blaming the LDS church, Republicans and the insurance companies but strangely no mention of Trump or the Russians. We just need to dig a little deeper.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2019 2:30 a.m.

    We cannot afford this expansion. When you start crying for more $ for education, roads, infrastructure, police, and the homeless, remember you blew the bank on this do gooder cumbaya medical $ disaster.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 11:53 p.m.

    @ DN Subscriber

    "We are on the way to becoming another California, which is on its way to becoming another Venezuela."

    Are you aware California's GDP makes it the fifth largest economy in the world?

    Those are some disparate dots you are attempting to connect; sort of like saying, "Boeing is on the verge of becoming Bob's Lawnmower Repair Service."

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 10:55 p.m.

    Re headline:

    Republicans replace voter approved Medicaid expansion.

    What is the point of voting when the Republicans will simply do what ever they want?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 10:47 p.m.

    It is obvious that "free stuff" appeals to many Utah voters who do not understand (or maybe just don't care) that someone has to pay for all that, and our state has to have a balanced budget, unlike the profligate spenders in Washington.

    Bravo to the Representatives who did the homework and came up with a reasonable solution to implement what can be from the passed initiative. It is barely affordable now and will become unsustainable as federal bait money gets reduced and more people figure ways to get on the program, and as liberals decide that the next increment of people with low incomes should be added. There is no end to the slippery slope of dependency.

    The street theater stunts of the "faith leaders" are disgusting, and undignified. However, it is right out of the liberal democrat playbook.

    It appears that the "free stuff" and "nanny state" propaganda has been converting a lot of Utahns. We are on the way to becoming another California, which is on its way to becoming another Venezuela.

    Follow the money on this whole Medicaid expansion drive. There are huge amounts being spent, and we should know who is behind all this and why.

  • AlSwearengen Ogden, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 9:42 p.m.

    So much for "Democracy"!

  • Bob Tanner Price, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 8:23 p.m.

    I am sad that Prop. 3 failed. I am sad because I feel for anyone who is unable to obtain medical care because they cannot afford it. It is sad that the legislature was unable to find the funding needed to enact it.

  • Bob Tanner Price, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 8:03 p.m.

    After reading this article several times and concentrating on the quotes from several legislators it seems that the will of the people has been denied for reasons that for me, are very difficult to swallow. It seems that none of the quotes in this column related to ways in which money might be found to cover Prop. 3. According to the quotes given in this article, money and money alone caused the Legislature to rescind the will of the people. How much time and serious effort went in to searching for ways to fund Prop. 3 ?

  • TX BYU Fan Heber City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 7:56 p.m.

    Is there a website that lists how our representatives voted? I need to know if I need to vote against mine. The people of the state spoke. This high-handedness of these self-important legislators is unconscionable. We need to vote out those who will not listen to their constituents.

    I have an 80-year old mother with severe Alzheimer's who spends more for her necessary memory care than she gets in SS and Medicare. Yet, the state says she makes too much to qualify for Medicaid. She is in the hole over $500 every month

    Shame on the Utah Legislature.

  • jparry Provo, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 7:47 p.m.

    I'm angry and disappointed with this outcome. I am just not convinced that our Republican state legislators are right about what it would take to fund Prop. 3. Cost projections into the future (2025?!) are always difficult and imprecise, but that is especially the case when it concerns a matter that this state has no experience with.

    Other states have experience with Medicaid expansion, and while I heard a few of these legislators say that it's been "a nightmare" in other states, none of them show any knowledge (including my own, whom I approached about this) of a number of credible studies that show that in states that accepted the full Medicaid expansion the rate at which healthcare costs increased from year to year significantly decreased, and so projected costs came under their future estimates.

    And the legislature sure seemed to be in a hurry to get these bills passed. Since the majority of Utah voters supported Prop. 3, I think the legislature owed the citizens a full accounting of the evidence supporting their claims, as well as time to deliberate about how to manage the potential shortfall, before any vote was held.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 5:17 p.m.

    Can someone explain to me how you could possibly believe it I s costing all of us less to have those without insurance use the ER for their primary care needs then to provide them basic health coverage? Spend 5 minutes at a local ER and you can see how fiscally illresponsable it is to not provide basic health insurance to those with none.

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:59 p.m.

    The legislative supermajority's vote to overturn Proposition 3, and really to kill ANY Medicaid expansion in Utah (everyone knows that the federal waivers necessary for this ill-conceived bill are virtually guaranteed NOT to happen), is absolutely unconscionable!

    The Utah citizens who are unhappy with this blatant disregard for the will of the voters who passed Proposition 3, this shameless display of social/economic Darwinism on the part of the Legislature, need to keep this fresh in their minds (maybe post a "Remember the Uninsured Working Poor!" sign where you will see it daily), and we need to persuade our friends and neighbors about the immorality of this heinous act, and collectively visit retribution in the voting booth on the Legislators responsible for it, establishing greater legislative balance and accountability in the process.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:42 p.m.

    Sonny- You prefer the LDS leadership way of instructing the legislature how to vote in private to lobbying by citizens?

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:30 p.m.

    Counter Intelligence - Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:50 p.m.

    @Utah Girl Chronicles
    "Someone posted a story online this morning about a niece who died recently because she could no longer afford her asthma medication."

    I don't believe your story because in the USA there are always emergency options; the hysteria is a little much

    ====

    Then you obviously haven't been paying attention. Recently there have been many similar accounts of Americans dying because they can't afford asthma medication or insulin for diabetes.

    People who need those medications and some others have recently been hit by price increases from manufacturers who have jacked prices up by nearly 900% .

    Meanwhile, the average pay package of a pharmaceutical chief exec is currently $66,000 PER DAY. ( You may easily check that by simply Googling Pharmaceutical executive pay packages. )

    Why aren't you commenting about that ?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:29 p.m.

    Backroom politics behind closed doors. I just got a strong whiff of the foul stench.

  • Sonny Daemon Layton, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:21 p.m.

    So now we have activist priests, whose churches have a history of truly helping the poor, railing against the government for not distributing other people’s money the way they want? Holy eye roll. “Fight poverty” is right. Medicaid isn’t fighting poverty. It’s aiding and abetting it. Look, I don’t love the fact that the legislature is treating a public referendum like a kid with his fingers crossed behind his back, but making a public spectacle of yourself isn’t doing the people you shepherd any justice. “When thou prayest, thou shall be not as the hypocrites are, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.”

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:27 p.m.

    wish I could have made sense of the story - had to go to the trib to understand what the legislation does.

    essentially it ensures full expansion, so I don't know why all the liberals are complaining.

    Imperial7
    look at Dunnigan's actions all along - he has worked to expand medicaid. Your attacks on him are groundless.

    mcclark
    there's the federal exchange - you can get insurance

    frozen
    70-30 for 100% of poverty level v 90-10 for 138% of poverty level. not sure which is more expensive - but then prop 3 is more expensive than the tax increase it included, and significantly more expensive than no prop 3.

    501CM
    the majority also voted for amendment 3. can you restore that, please?

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:25 p.m.

    @Counter Intelligence
    "Multiple states voted to codify traditional marriage - but an un-elected court overturned the "will of the people" by a measly 5-4 margin"

    Courts have a duty to strike down measures that are unconstitutional. Just because they can doesn't mean you have to like it when they do.

    Legislatures have a right to override the "will of the people" (provided they follow whatever rules are in place for that, like if we were voting on a state constitutional amendment the process would be rather different). Just because they can doesn't mean I have to like it when they do.

  • 1hemlock Tooele, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:21 p.m.

    Hmm.
    @impartial, fabulous, utah girl
    @impartial
    So what if Dunningan works in the insurance business. Medicaid doesn't take from the insurance carriers. At least he would be informed enough to know what is involved.

    @ fabulous
    Not so. The ballot initiative "sticks" it to people. No debate, no facts from all sides. No expert witnesses and then debate. This occurs at the legislature. And it does occur. Any ballot initiative is one sided emotion and is always inferior to legislation.

    @Utah girl
    The fact that "someone cannot afford their medication for asthma and dies" story sounds fabricated. It is lacking in facts. If you are wheezing, etc go to the ER. They have to see you and treat you. But with ballot initiatives , you want this "straw man" so people can get emotional and vote.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:22 p.m.

    imsmarterthanyou - Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:30 p.m.
    I can only hope it reduces rather than raises the tax cost I have to pay to provide insurance for those "less fortunate" when I can't get insurance for my family at all.

    ===

    You just made an excellent argument in favor of single payer health insurance.

    Thank you.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 4:14 p.m.

    Remember this at the election . . .

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:59 p.m.

    @ Counter Intelligence

    'Can somebody from the "I, me, mine" school of health care cynics …"

    Well thank you for responding.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:57 p.m.

    @Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT

    You are correct. Google Dunnigan Insurance. This should not be happening. You own your own insurance company and then get to make laws concerning insurance? This needs to stop.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:50 p.m.

    Multiple states voted to codify traditional marriage - but an un-elected court overturned the "will of the people" by a measly 5-4 margin

    So now i am supposed to be offended than an elected body modifies a financially unsound proposition in order to make it fiscally sustainable?

    @Utah Girl Chronicles
    "Someone posted a story online this morning about a niece who died recently because she could no longer afford her asthma medication."

    And somebody posted another story online about people dying in a failed socialist Venezuela that promised to provide free stuff for everyone paid for by everyone else; which ended up being nothing provided for nobody.

    I don't believe your story because in the USA there are always emergency options; the hysteria is a little much

  • SLC Grandma Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:41 p.m.

    I hope the governor has the strength of character to veto SB96 when it comes before him for his signature. Obviously any legislation has to have adequate funding to implement it but work on that instead of cutting back on the goal to provide for health and well being of those validly unable to provide for themselves, in the most efficient and humane way possible.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:36 p.m.

    Imsmarter---If you cant get insurance for your family you should be all for this, that is the whole point of expanding medicade.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:29 p.m.

    "Christensen's bill would start coverage April 1, as would Proposition 3, but at a more expensive 70 percent to 30 percent federal to state funding match rather than the 90-10 split offered for full expansion."

    It takes a special kind of incompetence to want to spend more for less.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:14 p.m.

    I don't have a dog in this hunt. However, if I did I would be madder than a wet hen.

    Apparently the majority party in Utah listens only to its own echo chamber, and cares not one whit about the will of the voters. In a usual environment, this would cause turnover in the state legislature come next election. Yet, I doubt that is going to happen. And those elected certainly know that.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 3:16 p.m.

    Someone posted a story online this morning about a niece who died recently because she could no longer afford her asthma medication.

    Can sombody from the "I, me, mine" school of health care cynics tell me how that story, or this ill--thought-out legislation, is a form of "American execeptionalism"?

  • 501CM Sandy, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 2:41 p.m.

    The people voted on this already. That should have been enough. Good thing the lawmakers all know better than the rest of us...

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 2:26 p.m.

    Glad we have a balanced budget requirement, our taxes here are way too high here though. Glad to see some wisdom and common sense on this one regardless of whining, crying and kneeling in the capital rotunda. I want people to pay my way too, but I have to get up every day, put my pants on and go to work. Tired of all the sniveling all the time.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 2:19 p.m.

    @Watcher1

    Yes we get it, It's more important that American pay the most for a third rate healthcare system so that CEO's can bank millions by denying benefits to the sick instead of helping them.

    We get it America is only for the wealthy, see tax breaks by the GOP, that's all they ever accomplish, beside starting wars and recessions.

    I'm lucky enough to be healthy, and have not used my insurance more then once for an instacare visit to put my arm back into socket. I've paid nearly $50,000 in deductibles, I would rather my excess go to help the sick and poor then a bonus for a hack making quota in denying benefits.

  • Fabulous Jen Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 2:18 p.m.

    This is another vulgar real-life example of Republicans sticking it to the people they allegedly represent.

  • Johnny Triumph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 2:00 p.m.

    I voted no on all the propositions, they just open the doors to this kind of change. None of us should be surprised at the mess we voted for...

  • Watcher1 Sandy, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    Socialism and a pure democracy (as opposed to a constitutional republic) have a lot in common . . . kinda like two wolves and a sheep on an island voting on what to have for dinner. We will never have a shortage of people working hard to figure out ways to have others provide for them, or those they like. If you want to speed up the process, just dangle out a little Federal subsidy out there (even if it's temporary), making it sound like it's ever so affordable--even though we're nearly $22,000,000,000,000 worse than broke at the Federal level with just short-term, immediate liabilities. Just amazing how charitable we are with other people's money.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:30 p.m.

    I can only hope it reduces rather than raises the tax cost I have to pay to provide insurance for those "less fortunate" when I can't get insurance for my family at all.

  • JapanCougar Layton, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:26 p.m.

    Again, I'll reiterate that the problem with propositions is that they often lack significant details--like how to appropriately finance this long-term.
    Even lawmakers who support prop 3 admit that it needs different financing in order to accomplish the goals of the vote.

  • dulce et decorum est , 00
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:27 p.m.

    “House Majority Leader Francis Gibson, R-Mapleton, assured representatives they'll be able tell their constituents that ‘we covered the spirit of what that proposition was.’”

    No, no they will not. The spirit in which the legislature is acting to overrule the will of the people at a greater fiscal cost to cover fewer people is the antithesis of the spirit with which a majority of Utahns voted for Proposition 3. This is wrong and the people cannot be deceived.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 1:05 p.m.

    I am so tired of arrogant politicians who think we are not smart enough to know what is best for us. Republicans dont care what you think because they dont have to. The R by their name guarantees election. It does not have to be this way. Start electing Democrats and all of the sudden Republicans will start caring about what you want.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 8, 2019 12:42 p.m.

    "The bill's House sponsor, Rep. Jim Dunnigan, R-Taylorsville, "

    You should mention that Dunnigan works in the insurance business and takes a lot of campaing cash from Big Insurance.