'The oceans are rising and so are we': Utah students rally for action on climate change

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  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    March 20, 2019 9:47 a.m.

    Stop blaming the naivete of these young people on public education. Most of these kids are so saturated with social media and Googled articles they can no longer think straight. Activism is just so fulfilling when their lives are so devoid of real meaning.

  • Sophie 62 Spring City, UT
    March 20, 2019 12:48 a.m.

    All the contempt and sneering in the world are not going to stop climate change.
    And they aren't going to stop smart kids from protesting against it. They have more right and reason to rise up because it is they who will live with the full effects of it, not us old codgers. We'll be gone, most of us. But our kids and grandkids will be the ones who pay for what some of us refuse to do about it. What a legacy to leave.
    Your kids and grandkids, and their kids and grandkids will not thank you, who bury your heads in the sand. And to think we still have a chance, a choice. And you want to throw it away. That is sad indeed.

  • WeThePeople Sandy, UT
    March 19, 2019 11:29 p.m.

    These young people have lots of complaint's, but no solution's.

    Meanwile, Coal lights our home's, and gasoline power's our truck's. These industry's built America. They will Make Aerica Great Again.

  • coltakashi Richland, WA
    March 19, 2019 7:15 p.m.

    I have been working in environmental regulation for 35 years. 20 years ago, when the Kyoto Protocol was proposed, Clinton and Gore declined to submit it to the US Senate for ratification, the many computer models simulating global temperature effects of rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere, were predicting that the rate of temperature rise that had been observed from 1978 to 1998 would match the CO2 rise. However, starting in 1998, a "pause" in the rise of global average temperature was observed that had NOT been predicted by any of the computer models. That lack of rise has continued now for 20 years, a fifth of a century, and demonstrates that ALL of the computer model predictions are a failed experiment. The claims that recent years have been "the hottest on record" is based on them being a hundredth of a degree higher than 1998, mathematically meaningless. No scientist has EVER demonstrated the ability to accurately predict future climate temperatures. Washington State has just had its COLDEST winter in 100 years. If global warming has no effect on actual weather, it is not a crisis.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    March 19, 2019 11:09 a.m.

    Naysayers of climate change often use weak and long-disproved arguments about alleged holes in the science behind global warming. Human activity is by far the largest source of carbon dioxide pumping into the atmosphere. The vast majority of climate scientists agree that this contribution is heating the planet and will cause undeniable impact on all ecosystems on Earth. No other explanation, not solar variations or a giant global conspiracy orchestrated by scientists can account entirely for the fact that the planet is warming and CO2 from human activity is the cause. Multiple lines of evidence, from ice cores to tree rings, support this conclusion. Some people are genuinely unaware of the facts or honestly disagree about interpretation. What distinguishes the true naysayers is an unwavering dedication to denying the need for action on the problem, often with weak and long-disproved arguments about supposed weaknesses in the science behind global warming. Although CO2 makes up only 0.04% of the atmosphere, that small number says nothing about its significance in climate dynamics. Even at that low concentration, CO2 absorbs infrared radiation and acts as a greenhouse gas.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    March 19, 2019 7:52 a.m.

    I love it how even today in modern society there people who don't believe in climate change.
    We can send man to the moon, split the atom, even grow human cells in a lab but you people think scientists can determine if the Oceans & Global Temps are rising oh geez just amazing.

    I also love how people who have never even so much as lifted a finger in any type research other than what Fox news or Oil backed spokesman have to say seem to be authorities on the subject.

    Fact we know certain chemicals like CFC's diminish the Ozone layer just plain and simple logic would say their may be other chemicals that do the same and without the ozone layer the Global Temp will rise.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2019 4:50 p.m.

    The earth has an axis of rotation; the angle of this axis relative to the sun affects how much of the sun's energy the earth absorbs. Corollary to this is the fact that the axis of rotation precesses, which affects how much energy is absorbed by the earth. I have not heard anything about how this affects our climate; I wonder if it has even been considered.

  • NorCalCoug Shingle Springs, CA
    March 17, 2019 3:29 p.m.

    I visited San Francisco as a child in the late 60's and live fairly close-by now. I also visited NYC in the late 70's and again just a year or two ago.
    In neither of those locations has the surrounding water levels risen at any noticeable level in all that time.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    March 16, 2019 3:40 p.m.

    Where was AOC when her presence could have really made a difference?

    🤔

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    March 16, 2019 3:33 p.m.

    Yes, the ocean is rising. "It's already over all the wheat and oats, it's five feet high and risin'". (Johnny Cash song).

    Isn't the earth continuing a natural evolution that all other planets and other heavenly bodies undergo? There are some phenomena that "the puny arm of man" can affect/control.

    Others? Not so much. Would be nice if we could tell the difference.

    🤔

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    March 16, 2019 3:16 p.m.

    @jparry Hurricanes have NOT increased over time, and recently, the US went for a record 12 years with NO category 3-5 hurricanes. 2018 was a record for the world with no F3-5 tornadoes. We have had some big fires, but there have always been big fires, and one possible reason for the recent big ones is that well intentioned, but naive, environmentalists have banned logging in the forests, so they grew too thick. Plus, no roads to serve as firebreaks.
    In general, lots of people think all the predicted disasters are now happening, but they are not. People confuse predictions with reality. The computer models have been wrong all along, so why trust them now? Alarmists have been telling us the sky is falling for decades now and have not been correct, so why believe them now?

  • water rocket , 00
    March 16, 2019 10:33 a.m.

    I have two questions for these young people. 1) Does this mean that YOU will not drive a gas fueled vehicle - ever? 2) Since global warming has been going on since the ice ages, and supposing that this phenomenon were due to the sun's gravitational pull on the earth just enough to reduce the distance between them by just a fraction of a degree, then wouldn't that affect global warmth? For me, I am VERY thankful that we are NOT living in an ice age. I see nothing to be alarmed about. God seems to have every thing under control. But you youth can forego all of the modern conveniences our industries have created (without your help, I might add). Don't drive. Don't even take mass transit. Don't buy electronic gadgets that require industries to manufacture. Don't wear clothes not of your own making. And above all, don't live in a home that is made of manufactured materials that use energy to make, or heat and cool. After YOU give up these things, let me know how that works for you in, say, 15 years.

  • dski Herriman, UT
    March 16, 2019 10:24 a.m.

    Its amazing how this global warming propaganda and hysteria has become a dominant subject in our schools. Since the 1970s, the doomsayers like Paul Erlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.” Never happened! Also in 1970, Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” Did I miss that? And don't forget, they always have their predictions many decades away so they can change it when that time comes and nothing happens. I am alarmed that these students will soon protests the farmers for not having catalytic converter for their cows' mufflers. Livestock are responsible for about 14.5 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. The methane gas they produce are getting out of control. I hope our delegates in Washington D.C. are reading this. I wonder if we should call for a Congressional committee to investigate the cows conspiracy to pollute the environment?

  • Subscriber Magna, UT
    March 16, 2019 9:52 a.m.

    Instead of leaving the classroom and wasting their time, they should have spent an hour in a science class to learn the difference between climate change and man-made pollution.
    Climate change is natural and will happen no matter what we do.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    March 16, 2019 8:47 a.m.

    "Compromise is not an option. We are not young and naive, we are young and unstoppable, we have our eyes and ears on you, we will not be manipulated. …"

    Isn't it great to be able to demand things with no viable option of your own? Please, if you have a solution, share with the rest of us.

    Compromise has to be an option (unless you're a 2-year-old). Currently, fossil fuel is the majority of what we have. until you share your solutions, maybe you could be a little less demanding.

    You will not be manipulated? Don't look now but that's exactly what is happening to you. You have no hard facts for your assertations; just the hysteria caused by those who think they know. Gather your facts before you attack and demand - then, maybe the rest of us will listen.

    Be calm. In the 60's & 70's it was overpopulation and the ozone; and we are still here. There are always people who depend on their "findings" to make a living off the rest of us. We will be fine; the earth is able to bear us. It's changing is all part of His plan.

  • Orson Woods Cross, UT
    March 16, 2019 8:42 a.m.

    Frozen fractals;

    "They seem to understand who the people are who pass legislation which can have significant regulatory impact on industries and sectors that produce large percentages of our anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions and our wintertime pollution issues."

    Sorry, doesn't wash. Utah legislators/government can have no significant impact on the industries and sectors that produce the supposed offending gasses. We are a small population state with small industry and can have little to no effect on world pollution. Someone pointed out China as a real culprit; that is where your logic might make sense.

    Our wintertime pollution won't be solved by the legislature or governor either, unless they are allowed to outlaw all or most combustion engine cars and trucks, which ain't goin' to happen. Someone said government doesn't solve problems, they cause them. There is some real truth to that--look what the government did with imposing fees on electric cars... Sabotaged a real solution.

    These students aren't going to find a wizard with a climate change wand at the capitol. They could try protesting in China and see how that works for them.

  • GreenLightReader Midway, UT
    March 16, 2019 8:04 a.m.

    Paramount to child abuse the way our youth are being terrorized by an agenda. There are many, many days waiting over the horizon. The end of this planet hinges upon the life of the star we call sun. Until then, innovation and inspiration will carry us forward. It brought our forefathers through many weather extremes. I have no fear.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    March 16, 2019 8:01 a.m.

    These young folks should have a talk with the Maldives government. The Maldives average 4 feet in altitude the highest elevation less than 8 feet yet they are putting in a $400 million airport improvement.
    Warm trend has been very welcome to me and resulted in prosperity world wide, increased longevity, and 3.5 million square miles of new green on the planet. In the forthcoming 80 years the temperature is supposed to go up another 1 degrees that would be really good.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 16, 2019 7:47 a.m.

    Now you are seeing some of the bitter fruits of liberal-controlled public education. No particular thought involved here, just indoctrinated young folks who have never been taught to think critically.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    March 16, 2019 5:35 a.m.

    These kids are adorable. Just like when they were younger in their school play, they have learned words to repeat, even though they don't understand what they are talking about, and then they do their performance for an audience. And the media does the clapping afterward.

    These kids should have been in school, not staging liberal protest marches with their manipulative teachers leading the performance.

    Bravo to all the kids who stayed in class and might have learned some real facts and science.

  • YouAreKidding Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2019 3:06 a.m.

    Here's all our naive, young friends need to know about "climate change". First, in the 1970's, scientists were predicting a global cool down and an impending ice age. Second, when that didn't happen, Al Gore and the liberal left, buoyed by these same scientists began claiming that "global warming" would raise sea levels, destroy cities, and end the world as we know it. Finally (but really not finally), now that the so-called effects of global warming have proven to be a farce, these same so-called experts and fear-mongers had to change the battle cry for their outage at all things not "green" and are now decrying the threat of "climate change".

    For the record, weather patterns change. They have always done so. They will continue to do so long after all of us, even our young friends, are gone. To destroy the economies of the world, send us back to the stone age, and as a real consequence, kill millions of people in the process, is not only not with the cost, it is irresponsible.

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 16, 2019 1:29 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs said it best!

    It’s all a bunch of hooey. Yep, I said hooey! This stuff is getting old. Climate change is a real thing of worry as much as Al Gore invented the Internet.

  • Sore loser Oakland, CA
    March 16, 2019 1:05 a.m.

    These kids are protesting in the wrong country, China and India would be better targets, and India would be a lot safer for protests than China.

  • BigLib Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2019 12:28 a.m.

    Public schools are fertile ground for Leftest propaganda. I would like my tax Dollars to go more toward hiring teachers that actually have a degree in the physical sciences, rather than leaving the teaching of science to under-qualified teachers who teach from a script to fill the minds of our students with "political correctness" nonsense.

  • Out of the Blue Layton, UT
    March 15, 2019 9:47 p.m.

    @AGF

    I learn something new everyday. The solar panel problem is in an article by Forbes for anyone who cares to check. It is pretty sobering and has me hoping that when my panels are at the end of their life someone has figured something out. I think they will have to outlive their expectations for that to be a possibility...

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    March 15, 2019 9:48 p.m.

    What a farce! Have any of these kids ever heard of climate oscillation? You know, where there are periods of heating and cooling that are natural and have absolutely nothing to do with the farce being pushed by the left? We're in a heating phase. Give it time and then it will cool back down.

  • Out of the Blue Layton, UT
    March 15, 2019 9:23 p.m.

    Are we damaging the earth? Yes. Are scientists looking at a worst case model for something extremely complex? Probably. Are some industries more concerned about profits than the planet? Definitely. Are new industries popping up to try to profit off attempts to be the next cleaner thing? Absolutely. Are governments going to enact laws that most people won't even think about in twenty years? It is what they do.

    And this push and pull has led to a cleaner earth through the years and the United States being on the forefront of innovation.... Unless we want China to take the lead this time.

  • AGF Taylorsville, UT
    March 15, 2019 9:16 p.m.

    Earthquakes don't affect climate but climate can affect earth rotation, hence length of day (LOD). Walter Munk (an eminent oceanographer who died a few weeks ago) calculated that a 1cm rise in eustatic sea level should increase LOD by 0.1ms. He also noted an expected 9sec decrease in acoustic ocean transmission time from Perth to Bermuda from 50 years before (due to warmer seawater) failed to transpire. Such hard science when added to the agreement of balloon measurements with U of Alabama's satellite measured lower tropospheric temperature give the lie to the much exaggerated climate propaganda we are bombarded with from AP, BBC, NYT, LA Times WaPo, NASA, NOAA, and so on. The oceans are rising an inch per decade; be very afraid (an 80 year old rate, and holding).

    What to do? Solar panels yield 300 times as much toxic waste per KWH as nuclear energy. Windmills kill birds and bats. Eastern forests in the US are cut down to sell wood pellets to England and Europe. Land is cleared to grow corn to make ethanol, a process that uses more energy than it delivers.

    The junk science is hardly harmless. It is disastrous. And continuing. --AGF

  • The Trooper Riverton, UT
    March 15, 2019 9:06 p.m.

    Was anyone advocating for nuclear power at this "protest?" If not, they don't truly believe the planet is about to die. Wind and solar won't do it.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    March 15, 2019 8:35 p.m.

    Brave Robin, 12 years, not 50, by latest estimate of freshman congressional experts.

  • Walt Nicholes Orem, UT
    March 15, 2019 8:21 p.m.

    So, suppose we install regulations and impose carbon taxes. Where will the money be spent? Not on climate change. It will be spent on social programs. There is no way money is going to change climate.

    This is all one liberal redistribution-of-wealth scheme. Talk to me in 20 years when you have more experience and see that the oceans haven't risen at all.

  • jparry Provo, UT
    March 15, 2019 7:24 p.m.

    If a neighbor's house were on fire or flooded out, people who read this newspaper would do something about it immediately. Climate change is already inflicting significant suffering on millions of people, including people here in this country--the terrible fires in California, hurricanes in the South. The overwhelming consensus of scientists who spend their life studying these things is that there is a strong link between our use of fossil fuels and the sharp spike in weather events that cause this suffering.

    These scientists are not trying to score political points for the left when they share the results of their scientific studies. There are absolutely no incentives for them to do so. Why can't readers of this paper not respond to scientific findings with basic human concern and compassion?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 15, 2019 7:16 p.m.

    It's actually fascinating to watch this younger generation of students. They mimic their liberal leadership by holding protests, crying fowl, making sure everyone hears their voice. But then the tough questions come like: how will eliminating FFs affect our economy and the fuel tax the government receives. What alternatives will be cost-effective while maintaining the infrastructure? I mean, we could all go back to lanterns and caves but would any of these iPhone-toting youngsters do that?

    Are they ok with the government forcing people to do that? It's always fascinating how the left is willing to sacrifice everyone else's freedoms to get what they want or believe in, but they are the first one's protesting if they're asked to give up any of their freedoms for other's beliefs.

  • kreese Ivins, UT
    March 15, 2019 6:38 p.m.

    In 1990, Al Gore said New York City would be under water in ten years.

  • BI Orem, UT
    March 15, 2019 6:33 p.m.

    "We did not inherit the Earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."

  • David Centerville, UT
    March 15, 2019 6:21 p.m.

    What do these students want to do about global warming.

    Seriously.

    The US could reduce greenhouse gas emissions and reach all applicable goals and it would have almost no effect upon global temperatures. This is because China, India and other developing countries are increasing the burning of coal and other fossil fuels, even as the US is decreasing the burning of those fuels.

    I imagine the US could completely eliminate fossil fuels and have no effect upon global temps. So we destroy our economy...to what effect?

    And do you really believe liberals leaders will stop using cars, jets, oil based products, etc? If so, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you in the West Desert.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 6:11 p.m.

    @Brek
    "Human caused climate change believers answer me 1 thing:
    If the last ice age was 10,000+ years ago and we’ve been in and out of ice ages on this planet for millions of years and if fossil fuels have only been used for a few hundred years at most then how have fossil fuels caused the global warming? I can’t find an answer to support fossil fuels being the culprit when earths been warming for thousands of years in this cycle."

    Rate of change. The Sun does a relatively decent job of tracking alongside temperatures for much of this millennium until the last 50 or so years. We're now in our weakest solar cycle in almost a century but we've continued warming. CO2 was around 320ppm in 1960 and is at over 400 now. Before 1960 CO2 wasn't rising as quickly, during the 60s it averaged a 0.6ppm/yr increase and now it's closer to 2.0ppm/yr but before the 1960s it was an even slower increase and in 1800 it was near 0 ppm/yr. It has only been the past 200 or so years where human influence has really separated and become a dominant influence compared to natural variation. But while nature'd point to steady temperatures, they rose instead.

  • Macfarren Dallas, TX
    March 15, 2019 5:30 p.m.

    Is everyone’s memory so short that the so called “data” and hockey puck data was shown to be a work of fiction a few years ago. Why are we still even having a discussion?

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:25 p.m.

    More than 652,000 Utah students didn't rally on "climate change" today.

  • Charles A.Sudholt RICHMOND, TX
    March 15, 2019 5:23 p.m.

    Do they have historical proof in the form of real sea level elevation changes? If not, their claims are worthless.

  • Brek Sandy, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:24 p.m.

    Human caused climate change believers answer me 1 thing:
    If the last ice age was 10,000+ years ago and we’ve been in and out of ice ages on this planet for millions of years and if fossil fuels have only been used for a few hundred years at most then how have fossil fuels caused the global warming? I can’t find an answer to support fossil fuels being the culprit when earths been warming for thousands of years in this cycle.

  • Dasay Farmington, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:12 p.m.

    Wisdom was and is wasted on the young.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:09 p.m.

    @112358
    "learn that the earth's climate – like its geology – has been in a constant state of change for over 4 billion years. "
    @William White
    "Humans are not causing climate change. Climate is changing due to natural causes."

    The existence of natural variation does not mean there aren't human impacts too. We have increased the 2nd most important GHG (CO2) in a century by an amount equal to the variation across a 100,000+ year Milankovitch cycle.

    @Macfarren
    "Public schools have been pushing... since the 70s when it was all about the hole in the ozone layer. What happened to the hole?"

    The ozone hole was caused by a sharp rise in CFC emissions. Nations soon after agreed to the Montreal Protocol which phased out their use and by the 90s the ozone hole situation stopped getting worse and has very slowly improved since.

    @Piratebass
    "that even if the entire north pole melted, the ocean wouldn't rise much?"

    NP is over water, like ice in a glass, but a lot of land ice would melt if we got to that point.

    @Vanceone
    "start at home and start sacrificing"

    I am (no car, never turned on the heat, no kids). Believe me now on this issue?

  • ssasrt Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:02 p.m.

    It's good to hear about young people who trust the well-researched, data-driven, and scientifically-solid reports that anthropogenic climate change is a real threat.

    I was a skeptic until I was asked to write a research paper about the topic while a student at BYU. I immediately decided to argue that climate change is a hoax, and then spent a week engaged in a futile attempt to find valid data and evidence to support that position.

    It didn't work. The evidence that people are changing Earth's climate was so overwhelming that I changed my position to one that has been reaffirmed by study after study since. Climate change is real, humans are causing it, and it's time to do something about it.

  • Max-was-right Mapleton, UT
    March 15, 2019 5:00 p.m.

    The ocean hasn’t risen 1”. Go to Miami and see where they built their homes 50 years ago and where they are still building today. Same exact height to the ocean. It hasn’t risen a single inch but that doesn’t help with the fear mongers.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:56 p.m.

    @Orson
    "Do these kids think someone with all climate control power sits on a thrown under the dome? "

    They seem to understand who the people are who pass legislation which can have significant regulatory impact on industries and sectors that produce large percentages of our anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions and our wintertime pollution issues.

    @Thid Barker
    "Fossil fuels are the only thing keeping millions of people from freezing to death, even in Utah! "

    Yes, which is why we need to significantly shift to more renewable and less GHG emitting sources of energy.

    "By the way, oceans levels are NOT significantly changing! Anyone tries to tell you otherwise is simply uneducated!"

    Significant is relative. The IPCC projection is around 1-3ft by 2100 (much of the range is the variety in emissions scenarios) which for many coastal environments a couple feet (plus it's not a uniform increase and erosion is a factor) means the difference between making it out okay and being inundated.

    @WIlliam White
    "left wing propaganda to promote a UN depopulation agenda. Just research it."

    Conspiracy theories are a poor substitute for reality.

  • William White Beverly Hills, CA
    March 15, 2019 4:50 p.m.

    @mcfarren True, anyone alive in the 70s-80s remembers well the smog. In LA that smog is almost non-existent now - way less than a few decades ago. And last year NASA released a report stating the ozone layer is repairing itself. So all this apocalyptic hype is based on little evidence. And if any country is polluting the air it is China, that great communist experiment gone wrong. Why so many young people being duped by this relentless climate change rhetoric? It's all because they get their "news" and belief systems from mainstream media and have lost their ability to do their own research, engage in critical thinking and deductive reasoning etc. Yes, reneweable energy is a good goal, but not at the expense of common sense policies. These kids are well-intentioned, but not fully educated on the topic.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    March 15, 2019 4:47 p.m.

    Social change is due to natural causes. Not climate change. Think about it.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:48 p.m.

    Reminds me of Bach's famous " All we like sheep..." By the way the term "settled science" is an oxymoron for general areas. Science is always developing.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 15, 2019 4:45 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CA: It may be nice and warm there in San Diego but for millions of other people freezing to death is a real possibility and if not for fossil fuels we would not be alive today. So you go ahead and hyperventilate about the "evils" of fossil fuels while the rest express our gratitude that they keep us alive!

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:36 p.m.

    I love the arrogance of BSR: If you disagree, you must be ignorant! Because the left only has smart people....

    I echo the other commentators: If they are so concerned about the climate, start at home and start sacrificing. Get rid of electricity.

    Still, I think these people have a bit of a point. Perhaps our Utah Legislature should look into implementing a large bunch of mandatory green laws, but in order to see if they work, they should only enforce them on environmentalists. Mandatory cuts to their electricity, confiscate their vehicles, and make them only eat whatever food they can grow, all while living in a grass hut. Let's see how much carbon we can reduce by forcing all the environmentalists to put their money where their mouth is. If it works, maybe ten years from now we can think about other measures.

  • kranny utah, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:28 p.m.

    These kids are asking government to fix something? When did government fix anything? They need to live a few more years to realize that government causes problems, they don't fix them. And, climate change is not a problem. So, government didn't cause it.

  • deseret pete Springville, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:22 p.m.

    In 1920 there was a gov't report that told us the statue of liberty would be half way under water soon --- I guess they miscalculated just like the know- it -all climate hysterics in 2019.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:18 p.m.

    Two hundred students out of how many thousands in Utah schools, a minutiae I think. And where are the seas rising, not Hawaii nor San Francisco nor New York nor Ft Lauderdale.
    Climate always changes, how many of the 200 knows that the equator used to run through Emery County? Now that’s climate change

  • Piratebass Clearfield, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:17 p.m.

    Do they realize that even if the entire north pole melted, the ocean wouldn't rise much?

  • T-money$$$ Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 4:16 p.m.

    Ocean levels are indeed rising thanks to many industrialized nations' dependence on fossil fuels, plastic, and co2 production (yes, India and China are the big baddies, but as a world superpower, I think the US can do a better job setting the example).

    If we really want to take better care of the environment we as a nation must take a hard look at nuclear, solar, wind and other energy sources besides coal, oil, and gas.

    In an era where large energy conglomerates essentially control congressional votes though, it's easier said than done.

    Seeing the youth of today speak up like this is truly inspiring.

  • Sequoya Stafford, VA
    March 15, 2019 4:07 p.m.

    The recruitment of the young as SJWs was ell underway in the 1960's; so this is not new.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 15, 2019 4:03 p.m.

    Yeah, these students sure are dumb for wanting to have an actual habitable planet to live on in 50 years.

    Keep it up, young ones! Ignore the ignorant and the haters!

  • Macfarren Dallas, TX
    March 15, 2019 3:56 p.m.

    The Trib reports 400, the DN reports 200. Either way they should stay in school. After all, that is how AOC became so brilliant about the way the world works as well.

    Public schools have been pushing the environmental agenda at least since the 70s when it was all about the hole in the ozone layer. What happened to the hole?

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:51 p.m.

    Ahh the enthusiasm of youth... it’s great to be young isn’t it...especially in America in the 21st century

    Ignorance is bliss...

  • Sirbobg Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:45 p.m.

    Oh no, what if we make the world a cleaner better place all for nothing?

  • William White Beverly Hills, CA
    March 15, 2019 3:46 p.m.

    Humans are not causing climate change. Climate is changing due to natural causes. This is all left wing propaganda to promote a UN depopulation agenda. Just research it. They are promoting a narrative to discourage procreation, reduce birth rates, encourage abortions, sterilize humans via vaccines and numerous other ways. The traditional Family is under attack.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:40 p.m.

    Maybe these SJWarriors should lead by example: stop using cars, planes, cell phones, computers, and electricity.

  • 112358 Alpine, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:31 p.m.

    Perhaps those students never learned that, but for natural changes to the earth, their protest would have been hundreds of feet underwater. It’s time for them to go back to class and learn that the earth's climate – like its geology – has been in a constant state of change for over 4 billion years. The notion that we can stop that natural process is completely unfounded.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:25 p.m.

    A youth climate strike lol. The look a little chilly standing in the cold after leaving their warm gas guzzling vehicles to climb the capital steps.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 15, 2019 3:22 p.m.

    Fossil fuels are the only thing keeping millions of people from freezing to death, even in Utah! What a supernal dilemma warmers face: Death by freezing or death by global warming in 12 years! By the way, oceans levels are NOT significantly changing! Anyone tries to tell you otherwise is simply uneducated!

  • Orson Woods Cross, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:16 p.m.

    Its one thing to be full of zeal for a "cause", its another to know what you are talking about and especially where you are directing your ire.

    I don't know how anyone at the Utah State Capitol can do anything for these misled students. Do these kids think someone with all climate control power sits on a thrown under the dome? That this King/wizard of Climate will stretch forth his wand and fix it all?

    Or are they just using that location in hopes of gaining more attention?

    The Trib and DN are giving them the publicity they seek, but it is all an exercise in futility. That's students for you. One great scholar, now deceased, called it "zeal without knowledge."

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    @drich
    "Much of our climate change has been the result of three earthquakes that knocked the earths axis off but environmentalists aren't talking about it."

    I don't know which earthquakes you'd even be referring to but Japanese, Chilean, and Sumatran earthquakes were estimated to shift Earth's axis by 6.5 inches, 3 inches, and 2.76 inches respectively and shortened the day 1.8 microseconds, 1.26 microseconds, and 6.8 microseconds respectively. Earth's tilt over a 41,000 year cycle varies from 22.1 degrees to 24.5 degrees. While the tilt, precession, and eccentricity combine to provide the Milankovitch cycles which are important, 12 inches is virtually nothing in comparison. It does not provide any contribution of importance and certainly matters way less than the jump in CO2 from 300 to 400ppm in under a century when the normal Milankovitch cycle range over the past 800,000 years (Vostok ice core) is more like 180-290 and back again over a 100,000+ year cycle.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    March 15, 2019 2:14 p.m.

    I would think that "students" wshould recognize that they are students for a reason: they don't really know a lot and need to learn and gain experience.
    Maybe their time would be better spent staying in class to learn how to implement realistic solutions.
    But we now have an entire generation of students who have been encouraged to neglect study of "mere facts" so they can be recruited into the Left's Social Justice Wars.
    It could not possibly get any more Orwellian.

  • drich Green River, Utah
    March 15, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    Much of our climate change has been the result of three earthquakes that knocked the earths axis off but environmentalists aren't talking about it. Farmers in the north have mentioned it especially those who use solar energy have stated they have had to reposition their solar panels.