The case for not watching 'Game of Thrones' on Sunday

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  • JacobZHess Paradise, UT
    May 6, 2019 10:21 a.m.

    Props for Deseret News & Jennifer Graham for being willing to tell the truth about this show....thank you!

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2019 7:41 a.m.

    Fact: Game of Thrones is the best show in the history of television. The second best show in the history of television is not only not in the same league, it so far below it isn't even the same sport.
    Game of Thrones is better than 90% of the blockbuster movies that have ever been made, including all of the Star Wars and Lord of the Rings movies. For once, a show is actually good enough to deserve all the hype.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    April 29, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    Seeing how mindless hordes can stream through holes created in the old border wall of ICE is quite disturbing.

  • Realism337 Draper, UT
    April 29, 2019 10:11 a.m.

    Let’s set gratuitous violence and rampant corruption aside for one moment, and focus on one theme prized by GoT writers—sexual abuse and slavery. As I write these very words, I think I can safely estimate there are literally thousands upon thousands of young girls and boys being raped by depraved adults. If you listen to anyone who is in the fight against human trafficking, they’ll tell you this problem is like a bursting floodgate, even here in the U.S. Although sexual misconduct has always accompanied the human experience throughout time, I believe we are sinking to the age of Tiberius and Caligula. People—we’re talking Sodom and Gomorrah stuff here.

    So, how’d we get here? Who among you don’t think it’s a problem? Who among you don’t think decades of entertainment like GoT hasn’t played some role in the problem?

    Today, “progressives” on the far-left turn a blind eye to such matters. They never talk about it, especially when it’s coupled with illegal immigration. When the Progressive Left begins to openly defend human trafficking, asserting that it’s “liberating” and/or “empowering” to all participants—look out.

    Progressives: proceed with your mocking…

  • Dennis Harrisville, UT
    April 29, 2019 9:36 a.m.

    I'll watch Game Of Thrones and you can watch Johnny Ringo.

  • The Caravan Moves On Enid, OK
    April 29, 2019 9:34 a.m.

    Never watched Game of Thrones before and I never will in the future.

    I want "class" and "beauty" in my life, not filth.

  • illuminated Kansas City, MO
    April 29, 2019 8:40 a.m.

    I'd say the same thing about most other modern tv dramas. My parents watched The Walking Dead religiously and I thought that show was horrifically violent. Breaking Bad was also a depressing, drug-promoting, waste of air time.

    I really don't understand people into this dystopian, dark stuff. I can't sit through an episode before getting sick. I prefer lighter stuff from the 80s and 90s like Star Trek and McGuyver.

  • Freezer Jam Syracuse, UT
    April 29, 2019 7:34 a.m.

    i appreciated this article very much.
    its been more than 10 years since i had an addiction to pornography.
    my sobriety has brought me such freedom and peace.
    it has helped me be a much better father and husband.

    ask anyone who has gone through porn recovery and i guarantee you that they would find GOT offensive and terrible to watch. it isn't worth it no matter how good the story is.

    the themes and scenes in GOT brought back terrible and horrible memories to me.
    so I will not watch that show anymore.

    there's nothing wrong with not liking GOT. it's like telling someone that they have to like going to see a rated R or rated NC-17 movie. what? why is that so wrong? i don't get it?

    i will probably still eat an Oreo though! lol!

  • Stenodude7174 St. Louis, MO
    April 22, 2019 12:02 p.m.

    Gee, an op-ed in the Deseret News advising people not to watch a decidedly R-rated type TV show? What a shock! What's next; an article suggesting maybe Quentin Tarantino movies aren't proper family fare?

    I note that just a day or two ago, James the Mormon posted on Facebook saying he'd never seen GoT and asking if his fans thought he should. Guess what they concluded? The first guess doesn't count . .

  • GranddaddyP Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2019 9:33 a.m.

    i honestly think i need to protect kids from religious books, people think that stuff actually happen, which if far worse. at least in GOT we all agree its fiction

  • joshcomments West Menlo Park, CA
    April 22, 2019 9:27 a.m.

    Yo episode 2 last night was lit!!!!!!!

  • Capsaicin Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2019 4:16 a.m.

    I watched a few episodes of the first season. It was dark, moody, angsty, full of language and porn. Just what the majority and current culture of morally bankrupt people love these days. There's no wondering why it's popular.

    April 15, 2019 12:27 p.m.

    It is an incredibly violent show and no one should watch it. In one scene a guy decapitates a man with a sword. The decapitated body of the man then raises up, struggles for breath, and his body collapses. It's absolutely gruesome . . . wait, sorry, that's the story of Shiz and Coriantumr in the Book of Mormon. My bad.

  • auroratheborealis Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    I find it interesting that people feel the need to defend their choices so hard to strangers on the internet. The author of the article mentions that people can become desensitized to violence, but we can also become desensitized to porn. I've never seen a pornographic video. I consider lingerie magazines porn. So I'm sure, from what I've heard, I would consider GoT porn. All billion people who watch and say "It's not porn, it's not porn!" are probably desensitized to nudity at this point. That doesn't surprise me. It does surprise me a bit that people can be so easy-going about depictions of rape, incest, sexual slavery and so forth.

  • thetrooth VANCOUVER, WA
    April 15, 2019 11:35 a.m.

    For those that don't watch GoT - congratulations. For those that do watch GoT - congratulations. Life's too short to worry about who is watching what in the comfort of their own homes. If you are concerned about the viewing habits of another grown adult, get a life.

    I personally love this series, but found the first episode of season 8 to be a little underwhelming. Hoping for a strong final season.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    April 15, 2019 11:22 a.m.

    What a weird twisted society we live in. 'Conservatives' that rush to watch GoT and Fifty Shades. We all talk about #MeToo and complain about too much violence and then watch women being raped and other bloody violence as entertainment. Hardly a minute goes by without someone talking about this show like it was the greatest thing ever on TV.

    Families used to watch Disney on Sunday night. Many people watch this WITH their kids. What a pathetic society we have become.

  • Dejah Provo, UT
    April 15, 2019 10:30 a.m.

    I think this illustrates just how much people cherry pick from their bible. Children are encouraged to read the bible. Violence, check, double check. Sexuality, check double check, Bonus- here's a recipe so if you think your wife cheated and if she drinks it she will abort the baby from the other man. Zombies runnning around Jerulalem, check. I mean come on. Read the thing then come back and tell me what GoT has that it doesn't. So silly.

  • EightOhOne St. George, UT
    April 15, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    T-money$$$ - Salt Lake City, UT

    You have great taste in television shows my friend!! Those are my top tv shows as well!! ( also The Wire)

    For you people who detest and are disgusted by GOT, you guys sure do know quite a bit about it!! You people enjoy hearing all about it, (just so you can complain about it) just as much as we enjoy watching it. Winter is finally here!!

  • Sicily1 Kaysville, UT
    April 15, 2019 9:17 a.m.

    For all of you Church of Jesus Christ members, what about all the talks by Prophets and Apostles about not watching this kind of filth! Also, would you feel worthy to attend the Temple after watching this? Would you want your children to know you watch it?

  • Dennis Harrisville, UT
    April 15, 2019 9:09 a.m.

    I'm embarrassed that an article like this is sent out to the public. This is better relayed on a Sunday in front of a congregation.

  • Macfarren Dallas, TX
    April 15, 2019 8:16 a.m.

    You knew what I was when you picked me up.

  • rok Sandy, UT
    April 15, 2019 7:51 a.m.

    Thank you.

  • Yorkshire Logan, UT
    April 15, 2019 5:33 a.m.

    All of you--especially all of you Church members who are salivating on social media about it-- are just telling on yourselves.

    To hear one of our YM leaders couldn't wait to watch it did NOT make me happy after reading this article.

    And another, to see the family's young children and wife with a shot of them buying the Oreos and so excited to show the husband what they'd found made me really wonder.


  • Shuzzie53 , 00
    April 15, 2019 1:08 a.m.

    So don’t watch it on Sunday. It’ll be on all week. Lol

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 14, 2019 11:42 p.m.

    Respect weekend-
    Pornography: Noun

    The depiction of nudity or erotic behavior, in writing, pictures, video, or otherwise, with the intent to cause sexual excitement.

    So, obviously not all nudity fits the definition of porn, unless the viewer is a desperate teenager. Having watched all of GoT, even my conservative wife would classify less than half of the nude scenes porn by definition. 1/4 of nudity is Male, usually a buttocks shot quickly in passing. With the exception of a few notable scenes, the nudity is usually not on the screen for that long, definitely not like what you'd expect from a porn, softcore or otherwise, especially if the intent is excitement. Maybe it's just that I'm mature and married, but seriously, there's but a few scenes that are anywhere near stimulating, for that you'd want to watch Shameless, True Blood the L word, or Girls, at least according to Entertainment Weekly.

  • RespecttheWeekend Draper, UT
    April 14, 2019 10:57 p.m.

    I love people saying this isn't pornography. Love it! This isn't hardcore pornography, it's softcore pornography with a big budget. There are 147 nude scenes over the course of 7 seasons (67 episodes). That's 2.2 nude scenes per episode. The author isn't telling anyone that they can't watch this show. She's informing you about what it is - it's softcore porn. If you are trying to get someone to sit down and get into GoT and binge seasons 1-7, how can seriously say "it has a little nudity in the show". This is probably the most nudity you will ever see in most shows if you sit down and watch all 67 episodes in preparation of season 8. Everyone can choose to watch this show or not, but please please please stop saying it isn't pornography. It's not hardcore porn, it's softcore porn.

  • OlderGreg USA, CA
    April 14, 2019 6:15 p.m.

    I'm mildly curious as to why it is back. I thought it was all about the assorted wars, intrigue, political maneuvering (whatever) to become The Boss of the World ---

    Didn't the throne winner event already happen?

  • MJ1 Santa Fe, NM
    April 14, 2019 5:15 p.m.

    Really? Don't you have anything better to do than bash a television series? If you don't like it, then don't watch it. We don't need your opinion on what WE should watch.
    People can actually use their brains and make their own decisions.
    (And GOT is NOT porn - ridiculous.)

  • AllHailScience Layton, UT
    April 14, 2019 4:34 p.m.

    I don’t watch the show because I’m just not interest in it. Lost interest in like season 3.

    I am surprised how many people are “horrified” by the show. It is art and you are not obligated to watch it. As Morty said unto Summer “Maybe those who create aren’t concerned with your delicate sensibilities. Maybe the species that communicate with each other through a filter of your comfort are less evolved that the ones that just communicate? Maybe your problems are your own to deal with...”

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 14, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    Pp- No, actually I didn't compare GoT to MASH, and Hogans Heroes, you're mistaken. What I clearly stated was they were controversial, not offensive. So your Mom had no reason not to watch. I enjoyed them as entertainment. As for GoT, it's a clearly labeled TV MA tv show. And you've either watched or read about the show to know there's some nudity in it. I don't understand the comparison to Playboy, I always read it for the articles.

  • H8Red Centerville, UT
    April 14, 2019 3:22 p.m.

    You can watch it on VidAngel. A local company that allows YOU to censors the content YOU don't what, i.e. nudity, language, graphic violence whatever your comfort level.

    You can do the same thing with hundreds of shows and movies for $8/mo. I use it as a free streaming app.

  • Jvkswm Rochester, NY
    April 11, 2019 4:48 p.m.

    This programme mightn’t appeal to me, but to others it might. It seems to me that all this discussion lends itself to promoting the series. There’s the old notion, any publicity is good publicity.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 11, 2019 12:57 a.m.

    Yankees - did you really just compare game of Thrones to Mash and Hogans Heroes? You can't be serious.

    My mom was not even offended at those shows and she gets offended by everything.

    This may stand as the best example ever as evidence showing how media desensitizes us to terrible things.

    OC64 - Game of Thrones may not be porn, but it has porn in it. Playboy is porn, and what's in GoT is far worse than anything that has ever been in Playboy.

    Personally I think I would love the show, but because HBO decided to go with the unnecessary porn and violence I decided not to watch it. I'll watch Star Trek reruns with andyjagy.

  • Listen to your mom Alpine, UT
    April 10, 2019 10:25 p.m.

    Thank you for having the courage to write this article. We know too well the heart-breaking, demoralizing effect that this type of media has upon family members and others.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 10, 2019 4:34 p.m.

    I enjoy GoT, but it's a bit overrated, still good though and I'll binge watch the final season when it's over. I grew up watching controversial tv, MASH, All in the Family (and it's many spin offs) Hogans Heros, and many others. I saw them for what they were, tv. My brain didn't melt, I didn't end up in years of therapy, didn't resort to substance abuse, and above all, I'm married 30 years with 5 well adjusted children. People over react to things they feel threatened by, especially music and tv/ movies. Remember, your Grandma thought Elvis's hips were sexy and people about lost their head over that. A few years later it was the Beatles, Stone's and Led Zepplin that were going to ruin teenagers. Then when I was a teen, big Hair bands and metal was supposedly the devils music, now days it's rap. These thing come and go without disaster, I think we'll all be fine after GoT ends.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    April 10, 2019 4:18 p.m.

    This is all the rage at my work here in Arizona. BUT I know it must be bad when they all tell me that I would be horribly offended and it is not for me. That was a great compliment and just another reason to not want to watch.

    I have been in hotel rooms and while checking out what is on TV hit HBO and was surprised at what I saw. Will not have that or any of those premium channels in my home. Safeguards and or passwords or not.

    I am old enough to see what these types of things do to our society. People will not agree with me but being a foster parent for 35+ years I have seen what all of this has done to people. If you play in the Mud you will get dirty.

  • Weston Jurney West Jordan, UT
    April 10, 2019 3:48 p.m.

    I've never seen it, so I don't miss it. Don't feel like I'm missing anything.

    I don't go to comic book movies either -- same reason.

  • 871256 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2019 3:35 p.m.

    Thanks for the article.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    April 10, 2019 3:23 p.m.

    I'm no saint with my media consumption, but I have no desire to tune in to watch incest, rape, murder, child prostitution, sex slaves, torture in various gruesome ways, murdering of children, people being burned as sacrifices, and the list goes on and on. People will defend it based on "art" and "storytelling" and maybe even it's "commentary on modern issues" yet when it comes down to it it's filth, nothing more. Star Trek managed for decades to provide great stories and even greater commentaries on social issues without having to resort to shock value to share it's message. If you are really watching it for those qualities listed above then there are dozens of other options that provide those same qualities without resorting to filth.

  • OC64 Edmonton, AB
    April 10, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    Game of Thrones is not porn.

  • Wild Ute Sandy, UT
    April 10, 2019 2:44 p.m.

    The books are better and I can't wait for the final book is realised

  • Dal Pal Rexburg, ID
    April 10, 2019 1:57 p.m.

    I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was THAT bad. Yuck.

  • Oblio Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2019 1:50 p.m.

    I thought the article was helpful. If you are already watching the show, you are probably not interested in why not to watch because you have already decided that it is OK for you to watch. But to those of us who have not been watching but may be interested to see what all the fuss is about, the takeaway from this article is this: the show has some significant objectionable parts in it and so, even if it is really popular, and really exciting, it is still objectionable and there are good reasons not to jump in. If that message is not worthwhile to you, you may be reading the wrong paper (or reading it for the wrong reasons).

  • T-money$$$ Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2019 1:38 p.m.

    All of these reasons highlighted in this article are exactly what makes GoT one of the greatest television pieces of all time. I'd say it's one of three (along with The Sopranos and Breaking Bad) that helped usher in the "golden age" of television.

    GoT - like all great pieces of fiction - upends conventions from the genre, sparks endless conversation, and inspires viewers to critically examine the moral ambiguities in the plot that often mirror those found in everyday life. In the era of "fake news" where fiction is too easily disguised as fact, we NEED smart, rewarding storytelling to help sharpen our collective critical thinking and challenge the societal status quo - even if (and I'd argue ESPECIALLY if) we find the vehicles for such storytelling to be offensive.

    True, the series has dipped a bit in quality since season 5, but with the future of TV being a diversified bunch of niche streaming services, GoT might be the last show we all can collectively watch together.

    Best to savor the zeitgeist while it lasts.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 10, 2019 1:13 p.m.

    The Old Testament is every bit as "bad" as Game of Thrones.

    It's a great production & story. I can't wait to watch it.

  • franc Kirkland, WA
    April 10, 2019 12:30 p.m.

    Thank you so much for saying this!!! I watched 3 episodes of the first season and was horrified. And @bravesirrobin ... you say you haven’t watched it but, trust me, you don’t see or hear anything like GofT at a Jazz Game ... it is dark, vile and soul-smashing. I truly hope & wish no one allows children to actually watch this horrid show.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 10, 2019 11:28 a.m.

    This was a sadly predictable article.

    I don't watch Game of Thrones, but why you feel the need to soapbox now about sexuality, violence, and naughty words is beyond me. Those things did exist in entertainment prior to Game of Thrones, you know. I've heard worse language at "wholesome" activities like Jazz games - where's the righteous article about that?