Props for Deseret News & Jennifer Graham for being willing to tell the truth
about this show....thank you!
Fact: Game of Thrones is the best show in the history of television. The second
best show in the history of television is not only not in the same league, it so
far below it isn't even the same sport. Game of Thrones is better
than 90% of the blockbuster movies that have ever been made, including all of
the Star Wars and Lord of the Rings movies. For once, a show is actually good
enough to deserve all the hype.
Seeing how mindless hordes can stream through holes created in the old border
wall of ICE is quite disturbing.
Let’s set gratuitous violence and rampant corruption aside for one moment,
and focus on one theme prized by GoT writers—sexual abuse and slavery. As
I write these very words, I think I can safely estimate there are literally
thousands upon thousands of young girls and boys being raped by depraved adults.
If you listen to anyone who is in the fight against human trafficking,
they’ll tell you this problem is like a bursting floodgate, even here in
the U.S. Although sexual misconduct has always accompanied the human experience
throughout time, I believe we are sinking to the age of Tiberius and Caligula.
People—we’re talking Sodom and Gomorrah stuff here.So,
how’d we get here? Who among you don’t think it’s a problem?
Who among you don’t think decades of entertainment like GoT hasn’t
played some role in the problem?Today, “progressives” on
the far-left turn a blind eye to such matters. They never talk about it,
especially when it’s coupled with illegal immigration. When the
Progressive Left begins to openly defend human trafficking, asserting that
it’s “liberating” and/or “empowering” to all
participants—look out.Progressives: proceed with your
I'll watch Game Of Thrones and you can watch Johnny Ringo.
Never watched Game of Thrones before and I never will in the future.I want "class" and "beauty" in my life, not filth.
I'd say the same thing about most other modern tv dramas. My parents
watched The Walking Dead religiously and I thought that show was horrifically
violent. Breaking Bad was also a depressing, drug-promoting, waste of air
time.I really don't understand people into this dystopian, dark
stuff. I can't sit through an episode before getting sick. I prefer
lighter stuff from the 80s and 90s like Star Trek and McGuyver.
i appreciated this article very much.its been more than 10 years since i
had an addiction to pornography.my sobriety has brought me such freedom
and peace.it has helped me be a much better father and husband.ask anyone who has gone through porn recovery and i guarantee you that they
would find GOT offensive and terrible to watch. it isn't worth it no
matter how good the story is.the themes and scenes in GOT brought
back terrible and horrible memories to me.so I will not watch that show
anymore. there's nothing wrong with not liking GOT. it's
like telling someone that they have to like going to see a rated R or rated
NC-17 movie. what? why is that so wrong? i don't get it?i
will probably still eat an Oreo though! lol!
Gee, an op-ed in the Deseret News advising people not to watch a decidedly
R-rated type TV show? What a shock! What's next; an article suggesting
maybe Quentin Tarantino movies aren't proper family fare?I note
that just a day or two ago, James the Mormon posted on Facebook saying he'd
never seen GoT and asking if his fans thought he should. Guess what they
concluded? The first guess doesn't count . .
i honestly think i need to protect kids from religious books, people think that
stuff actually happen, which if far worse. at least in GOT we all agree its
Yo episode 2 last night was lit!!!!!!!
I watched a few episodes of the first season. It was dark, moody, angsty, full
of language and porn. Just what the majority and current culture of morally
bankrupt people love these days. There's no wondering why it's
It is an incredibly violent show and no one should watch it. In one scene a guy
decapitates a man with a sword. The decapitated body of the man then raises up,
struggles for breath, and his body collapses. It's absolutely gruesome . .
. wait, sorry, that's the story of Shiz and Coriantumr in the Book of
Mormon. My bad.
I find it interesting that people feel the need to defend their choices so hard
to strangers on the internet. The author of the article mentions that people can
become desensitized to violence, but we can also become desensitized to porn.
I've never seen a pornographic video. I consider lingerie magazines porn.
So I'm sure, from what I've heard, I would consider GoT porn. All
billion people who watch and say "It's not porn, it's not
porn!" are probably desensitized to nudity at this point. That doesn't
surprise me. It does surprise me a bit that people can be so easy-going about
depictions of rape, incest, sexual slavery and so forth.
For those that don't watch GoT - congratulations. For those that do watch
GoT - congratulations. Life's too short to worry about who is watching what
in the comfort of their own homes. If you are concerned about the viewing habits
of another grown adult, get a life.I personally love this series,
but found the first episode of season 8 to be a little underwhelming. Hoping for
a strong final season.
What a weird twisted society we live in. 'Conservatives' that rush to
watch GoT and Fifty Shades. We all talk about #MeToo and complain about too much
violence and then watch women being raped and other bloody violence as
entertainment. Hardly a minute goes by without someone talking about this show
like it was the greatest thing ever on TV. Families used to watch
Disney on Sunday night. Many people watch this WITH their kids. What a pathetic
society we have become.
I think this illustrates just how much people cherry pick from their bible.
Children are encouraged to read the bible. Violence, check, double check.
Sexuality, check double check, Bonus- here's a recipe so if you think your
wife cheated and if she drinks it she will abort the baby from the other man.
Zombies runnning around Jerulalem, check. I mean come on. Read the thing then
come back and tell me what GoT has that it doesn't. So silly.
T-money$$$ - Salt Lake City, UTYou have great taste in television
shows my friend!! Those are my top tv shows as well!! ( also The Wire)For you people who detest and are disgusted by GOT, you guys sure do know
quite a bit about it!! You people enjoy hearing all about it, (just so you can
complain about it) just as much as we enjoy watching it. Winter is finally
For all of you Church of Jesus Christ members, what about all the talks by
Prophets and Apostles about not watching this kind of filth! Also, would you
feel worthy to attend the Temple after watching this? Would you want your
children to know you watch it?
I'm embarrassed that an article like this is sent out to the public. This
is better relayed on a Sunday in front of a congregation.
You knew what I was when you picked me up.
All of you--especially all of you Church members who are salivating on social
media about it-- are just telling on yourselves.To hear one of our
YM leaders couldn't wait to watch it did NOT make me happy after reading
this article.And another, to see the family's young children
and wife with a shot of them buying the Oreos and so excited to show the husband
what they'd found made me really wonder.Yikes.
So don’t watch it on Sunday. It’ll be on all week. Lol
Respect weekend- Pornography: NounThe depiction of nudity or
erotic behavior, in writing, pictures, video, or otherwise, with the intent to
cause sexual excitement.So, obviously not all nudity fits the
definition of porn, unless the viewer is a desperate teenager. Having watched
all of GoT, even my conservative wife would classify less than half of the nude
scenes porn by definition. 1/4 of nudity is Male, usually a buttocks shot
quickly in passing. With the exception of a few notable scenes, the nudity is
usually not on the screen for that long, definitely not like what you'd
expect from a porn, softcore or otherwise, especially if the intent is
excitement. Maybe it's just that I'm mature and married, but
seriously, there's but a few scenes that are anywhere near stimulating,
for that you'd want to watch Shameless, True Blood the L word, or Girls,
at least according to Entertainment Weekly.
I love people saying this isn't pornography. Love it! This isn't
hardcore pornography, it's softcore pornography with a big budget. There
are 147 nude scenes over the course of 7 seasons (67 episodes). That's 2.2
nude scenes per episode. The author isn't telling anyone that they
can't watch this show. She's informing you about what it is -
it's softcore porn. If you are trying to get someone to sit down and get
into GoT and binge seasons 1-7, how can seriously say "it has a little
nudity in the show". This is probably the most nudity you will ever see in
most shows if you sit down and watch all 67 episodes in preparation of season 8.
Everyone can choose to watch this show or not, but please please please stop
saying it isn't pornography. It's not hardcore porn, it's
I'm mildly curious as to why it is back. I thought it was all about the
assorted wars, intrigue, political maneuvering (whatever) to become The Boss of
the World --- Didn't the throne winner event already happen?
Really? Don't you have anything better to do than bash a television
series? If you don't like it, then don't watch it. We don't
need your opinion on what WE should watch.People can actually use their
brains and make their own decisions.(And GOT is NOT porn - ridiculous.)
I don’t watch the show because I’m just not interest in it. Lost
interest in like season 3. I am surprised how many people are
“horrified” by the show. It is art and you are not obligated to
watch it. As Morty said unto Summer “Maybe those who create aren’t
concerned with your delicate sensibilities. Maybe the species that communicate
with each other through a filter of your comfort are less evolved that the ones
that just communicate? Maybe your problems are your own to deal with...”
Pp- No, actually I didn't compare GoT to MASH, and Hogans Heroes,
you're mistaken. What I clearly stated was they were controversial, not
offensive. So your Mom had no reason not to watch. I enjoyed them as
entertainment. As for GoT, it's a clearly labeled TV MA tv show. And
you've either watched or read about the show to know there's some
nudity in it. I don't understand the comparison to Playboy, I always read
it for the articles.
You can watch it on VidAngel. A local company that allows YOU to censors the
content YOU don't what, i.e. nudity, language, graphic violence whatever
your comfort level. You can do the same thing with hundreds of
shows and movies for $8/mo. I use it as a free streaming app.
This programme mightn’t appeal to me, but to others it might. It seems to
me that all this discussion lends itself to promoting the series. There’s
the old notion, any publicity is good publicity.
Yankees - did you really just compare game of Thrones to Mash and Hogans Heroes?
You can't be serious.My mom was not even offended at those
shows and she gets offended by everything. This may stand as the
best example ever as evidence showing how media desensitizes us to terrible
things. OC64 - Game of Thrones may not be porn, but it has porn in
it. Playboy is porn, and what's in GoT is far worse than anything that has
ever been in Playboy.Personally I think I would love the show, but
because HBO decided to go with the unnecessary porn and violence I decided not
to watch it. I'll watch Star Trek reruns with andyjagy.
Thank you for having the courage to write this article. We know too well the
heart-breaking, demoralizing effect that this type of media has upon family
members and others.
I enjoy GoT, but it's a bit overrated, still good though and I'll
binge watch the final season when it's over. I grew up watching
controversial tv, MASH, All in the Family (and it's many spin offs) Hogans
Heros, and many others. I saw them for what they were, tv. My brain didn't
melt, I didn't end up in years of therapy, didn't resort to substance
abuse, and above all, I'm married 30 years with 5 well adjusted children.
People over react to things they feel threatened by, especially music and tv/
movies. Remember, your Grandma thought Elvis's hips were sexy and people
about lost their head over that. A few years later it was the Beatles,
Stone's and Led Zepplin that were going to ruin teenagers. Then when I was
a teen, big Hair bands and metal was supposedly the devils music, now days
it's rap. These thing come and go without disaster, I think we'll all
be fine after GoT ends.
This is all the rage at my work here in Arizona. BUT I know it must be bad when
they all tell me that I would be horribly offended and it is not for me. That
was a great compliment and just another reason to not want to watch. I have been in hotel rooms and while checking out what is on TV hit HBO and
was surprised at what I saw. Will not have that or any of those premium
channels in my home. Safeguards and or passwords or not. I am old
enough to see what these types of things do to our society. People will not
agree with me but being a foster parent for 35+ years I have seen what all of
this has done to people. If you play in the Mud you will get dirty.
I've never seen it, so I don't miss it. Don't feel like I'm
missing anything. I don't go to comic book movies either --
Thanks for the article.
I'm no saint with my media consumption, but I have no desire to tune in to
watch incest, rape, murder, child prostitution, sex slaves, torture in various
gruesome ways, murdering of children, people being burned as sacrifices, and the
list goes on and on. People will defend it based on "art" and
"storytelling" and maybe even it's "commentary on modern
issues" yet when it comes down to it it's filth, nothing more. Star
Trek managed for decades to provide great stories and even greater commentaries
on social issues without having to resort to shock value to share it's
message. If you are really watching it for those qualities listed above then
there are dozens of other options that provide those same qualities without
resorting to filth.
Game of Thrones is not porn.
The books are better and I can't wait for the final book is realised
I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was THAT bad. Yuck.
I thought the article was helpful. If you are already watching the show, you
are probably not interested in why not to watch because you have already decided
that it is OK for you to watch. But to those of us who have not been watching
but may be interested to see what all the fuss is about, the takeaway from this
article is this: the show has some significant objectionable parts in it and so,
even if it is really popular, and really exciting, it is still objectionable and
there are good reasons not to jump in. If that message is not worthwhile to
you, you may be reading the wrong paper (or reading it for the wrong reasons).
All of these reasons highlighted in this article are exactly what makes GoT one
of the greatest television pieces of all time. I'd say it's one of
three (along with The Sopranos and Breaking Bad) that helped usher in the
"golden age" of television. GoT - like all great pieces of
fiction - upends conventions from the genre, sparks endless conversation, and
inspires viewers to critically examine the moral ambiguities in the plot that
often mirror those found in everyday life. In the era of "fake news"
where fiction is too easily disguised as fact, we NEED smart, rewarding
storytelling to help sharpen our collective critical thinking and challenge the
societal status quo - even if (and I'd argue ESPECIALLY if) we find the
vehicles for such storytelling to be offensive. True, the series has
dipped a bit in quality since season 5, but with the future of TV being a
diversified bunch of niche streaming services, GoT might be the last show we all
can collectively watch together. Best to savor the zeitgeist while
The Old Testament is every bit as "bad" as Game of Thrones.It's a great production & story. I can't wait to watch it.
Thank you so much for saying this!!! I watched 3 episodes of the first season
and was horrified. And @bravesirrobin ... you say you haven’t watched it
but, trust me, you don’t see or hear anything like GofT at a Jazz Game ...
it is dark, vile and soul-smashing. I truly hope & wish no one allows
children to actually watch this horrid show.
This was a sadly predictable article.I don't watch Game of
Thrones, but why you feel the need to soapbox now about sexuality, violence, and
naughty words is beyond me. Those things did exist in entertainment prior to
Game of Thrones, you know. I've heard worse language at "wholesome"
activities like Jazz games - where's the righteous article about that?